This thread is for talking about Thomas F. Torrance's book, The Mediation of Christ.
To Bill, Lance, and Jonathan: I have perhaps many comments, but I'm going to take this a little at a time. I hope you are patient with me. For starters, I would like to hear your comments about Torrance's perspective of the two sacraments being "converting ordinances." I am especially interested in knowing if you view it this way, in light of the comments that every person is born already in Christ. On p. 97, Torrance writes: "Thus, to use earlier terminology, the sacraments of Baptism and Holy Communion are not to be regarded merely as 'confirming ordinances' but as 'converting ordinances', for in and through them the Gospel strikes home to us in such a way as to draw us within the vicarious response to God which Jesus Christ constitutes in his own humanity, the humanity which he took from us and converted back to God the Father in himself. Perhaps you can comment on this in any way you like, but one thing I wonder about is if we are all born in Christ already, and already reconciled to God when we are born into the world, then what need is there for "conversion"? Wouldn't everything subsequently be "confirming"? Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
