Don't feel bad, Lance. It's not that I'm 12 yrs old. It's just that I'm a female. :-) I'd rather spend my time quilting while you fellas come up with a consensus for the rest of us. Izzy
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ David: "No syntactics contains it's own semantics." Agree/Disagree? In all communication success is determined by an overlap of meaning (semantics). No overlap, no communication. PS: For shame on all of us for communicating in such a way as to prompt Izzy to drop out 'til we're done.CSLewis supposedly said something to the effect that: If you can't successfully communicate your meaning to a 12 yr old (no, Izzy I don't mean you) it may be the case that you don't know what you're talking about. I actually though the two illustrations (smiling & Jesus) sort of made this point. Blessings, Lance ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 11, 2004 12:32 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ > Lance wrote: > > What is your understanding of semantic? > > The word "semantic" refers to the meaning of words. Sometimes a person > might say the same thing but use different words. For example, someone > might say, "that was really Great!" Another person might say, "No, that > was really Excellent!" They both might be trying to communicate > identical concepts, but the words they use are different and might have > different meanings for each of them. > > Lance wrote: > > What is your understanding of syntax? > > The word "syntax" refers to how words are organized and arranged into > phrases and sentences to communicate an idea. > > Lance wrote: > > How can a difference be more than semantic? > > Easy. Sometimes people really mean to communicate something different. > > For example, if I was to describe gravity as a force between objects > that have mass, that would be different than describing gravity as a > path in space which objects tend to follow. This difference is what > lies at the heart of Newtonian physics versus Einsteinian physics. > According to the Newtonian viewpoint, light would not be effected by > gravity because it has no mass. On the other hand, Einstein's model > predicts that gravity effects light too. > > In regards to theology, some might talk about righteousness as a legal > standing with God, whereas someone else might see righteousness as being > more than that, as indicating a virtue within the heart of man. The > latter concept sees righteousness as a thing having existence within > man, whereas the former sees righteousness as something external to man, > something which only effects God's view of man regardless of man's > actual state of being. In this case, there is a semantic component of > defining the word "righteousness" but there is more than that. There is > an actual difference in perspective of the truth being discussed. There > is a difference in the actual apprehension of reality and not just in > what words are used to communicate that understanding. > > If I were to say that an argument is primarily semantic, it would mean > that the persons discussing the subject perceive the actual truth in the > same way, but they differ in the words they use to describe that truth. > If an argument is more than just semantics, then it means that the > opposing viewpoints substantially differ in their actual comprehension > of the truth and not just in what words they choose to use to convey > that understanding. > > Peace be with you. > David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
