I suspect I will be accused of "cut and run tactics" but it is time for me to bow out on this thread. I see that I cannot achieve any understanding with those that need it because they hold the Nicean Creed above scripture. Although, this will probably be denied.
To attempt anything more is a waste of my time. It seems odd to me that the God of the Jews is claimed, yet rejected by Christians who change His work and words. God says in Mal. 3:6, "I YHVH do not change..."
Yet "Orthodox Christianity"( read Nicean Creed...) has changed Him.
How odd of God
To choose the Jews,
But not so odd
As those who choose
The Jewish God
And despise the Jews. Author unknown
Like it or not people, Christianity is in reality Jewish!
TTFN, Jeff
Take a pill, Jeff. You think God is a little guy with curlly black hair who speaks Yiddish and pinches pennies? My God is not the Jewish God. He is the God of all mankind. You want to observe one day over another - fine; just don't bind that belief on others.
John