Hi
Judy:
613 commands in the Torah, yes. Directly from God,
not man. Why? Because God says Be Holy, because I AM holy. This
is HOW a holy, set-apart people live. This is how you deal with this,
this is how you deal with that. God has a whole system of government set up.
Gee, too bad we didn't follow it in the first place. Maybe then our courts
wouldn't be as messed up as they are.
I
don't understand WHY people freak out over 613 commands. They're reiterated
in the newer Testament. In fact, the newer Testament contains 1,050
commands! Yeshua made the commands fuller, harder
even.
Yes, there are 613 commands. However, YOU don't
have to follow each of them. There are commands for men, which you're not a
man, so they don't apply. I know you're not a Levitical priest,
so, whack away a whole SLEW of the 613. Let's see...how about instructions
(law) for you in particular since you're a woman.....Not to get personal,
but I believe you're an older woman, correct? Well, then you can knock
out the laws for Niddah (the monthly cycle) as well as the child bearing
laws.
When you were raising your children, didn't you
have House Rules? Why did you give the Rules of the House to your children?
To keep them safe? To keep order? To protect? God did the same thing for us.
He's a loving Father who wants to keep His children safe and holy. Did you
ever give your children a rule that they didn't understand? You knew the
reasoning behind it and it was probably a good reason. God does the same
thing. Every single one of the 613 fall under TWO categories. Every single
law of the 613 have to do with either A. Loving God, or B. Loving your
Neighbor. Funny, our house rules are just like that. I bet yours were,
too.
Kabbalah is something different, Judy. It's a much
deeper spiritual application. I would not suggest reading it. There are also
two different types of Kabbalah. God Himself says the laws He gives are "not
far from you". It is NOT impossible. Maybe we should list all the laws and
see exactly how many apply. Would that help?
Being worn out due to learning a new one every day
is something Paul was attempting for others coming in. It's what he speaks
of in Acts...Kay's paraphrase....
Paul and the Council: Okay, we've got to DO
something with these people coming in. We can't fellowship with them. They
can't come into the sanctuary. In order to be able to do that...we have to
give them these four rules....don't fornicate, don't eat strangled
foods, don't worship other idols....they'll be coming to the synagogue every
Shabbat. They'll be hearing the Torah when they come each week. It takes us
three years to read the whole Torah. They can handle little bits of it each
week. They'll learn. Slow, but sure, they'll build up and they'll learn.
That's what we can do with them! Wow, we solved our
problem!
I've got lots of people in for the weekend. I won't
be on much. Shall we look at ALL the laws and see what they are about? See
which ones apply and then maybe we'll have a good number? Maybe after that,
we should check out the 1050 in the Newer Testament and compare when we're
done with that.
Kay
Once more I stand corrected. I was
under the impression we were all talking about the same thing.
Now I see we are not - 613
Commandments, you've got to be kidding? Last I heard mention of
this was through Ellsman..........
So I did a search and found "Ask
Moses" (modern day you understand) who tells me there are 248 positive
and 365 negative commandments for a total of 613. What a load
whereas Jesus says "My yoke is easy and my burden is light" so I would
much rather learn from Him.
I'm sorry Jeff and Slade as I
thought we were talking about the same thing. When I say Torah I mean
the writings of Moses as revealed by the Spirit of God without all of
the add ons and extras. I see where the Kaballah (that occult
business Madonna is into) is attached to this in some way also which
further complicates things. One
poor soul who is just beginning to
learn of Jewish heritage wrote that every day they were learning about
another law or commandment and they were worn out and overwhelmed by all
the mitzvot!
Whew!! Kay, do you do all
this as well??