*note subject change Subject was " Basis of Unity (Bill)" and now is "Original Sin"
Bill Taylor wrote: >> ... I do not think their transgressions are reckoned >> to them as sin until that time that they have both a >> cognitive and a moral awareness of the law, >> i.e., of right and wrong and why the transgression >> of such is sinful (cf. Rom 7.9). Izzy wrote: > Agreed. Bill and Izzy, how do you deal with the subject matter of Romans 5? The following passage seems to indicate that an advserse sentence of condemnation is passed upon all men by the offense of one man: Romans 5:18 (18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation Several verses earlier, Paul was using the observation of death reigning over men from Adam to Moses as evidence of this condemnation: Romans 5:14 (14) Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression The concepts Paul teaches here appear contradictory to your perceptions. These people who experienced death did so because of someone who sinned before them. Furthermore, they had no real understanding that that their actions were sinful because there was no law. I have to admit that I tend to look at matters the way you two do, but I fear that much of that is because of my culture and upbringing. These passages challenge my way of thinking on this, and they appear to be problematic to what you two have just agreed upon. Please consider them carefully and offer an anwer if you can. I am very interested. Peace be with you. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
