On Mon, Mar 8, 2021, 9:52 AM Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just to add to the discussion, one of my fellow NBC Pages worked for a > years in ad sales for the news division. Drug companies and semi-related > life insurance companies notoriously buy ad time on the cheap, meaning if > the program you’re watching contains a lot of pharmaceutical commercials, > the program in question is not a big money maker for the network that airs > it. > I see the boner pill ads with the hot MILF wives during all the NFL and college football games. > On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 9:41 AM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Right, only NZ and The US have such open direct-to-consumer advertising; >> and I am old enough to remember when it was if not prohibited at least rare >> here. And even in the US, most insurance plans have formularies, with >> expensive or not fully established medications not available. One purpose >> of all the “ask your doctor” ads is to put consumer pressure not just on >> doctors but on insurers to make certain drugs available. >> >> I don’t really understand how you guys can afford both socialized >> medicine and the Royal albatross, while we still have so many millions >> without access to basic healthcare. >> >> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 at 7:50 AM Adam Bowie <a...@adambowie.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> I know of at least two people who stayed up until 2am to watch it live >>> on some kind of dodgy stream somewhere. And yes, there were a lot of >>> comments on the volume of advertising the interview had. I don't know if it >>> was more than the usual 19-20 mins per hour, but that is higher than we get >>> in the UK where we were, until recently, regulated by the EU and still have >>> limits on the number of breaks (two mid-breaks in a one hour show, one >>> break in a half-hour), and the number of ads. >>> >>> But literally every person I talk to who's been to the US for vacation >>> or business will mention the pharmaceutical ads. It's worth noting that >>> this has been (at least until very recently - I believe Canada might now >>> allow them) an almost uniquely American thing. In the UK and EU, you only >>> see drug adverts for over the counter drugs. There's no "Ask your doctor" >>> advertising. There's also much hilarity at the nature of the ads - 30 >>> seconds of benefits/ 30 seconds of hideous side effects. I believe that >>> this type of advertising was only also legal in New Zealand. So yes - it's >>> about as strange to us as seeing cigarette advertising on TV. >>> >>> Of course, European health services are very different. In the UK, most >>> people are treated under the NHS and you basically don't get a choice about >>> drug treatment. Not every drug is even available - there are committees >>> that determine which drugs the NHS will make available. (So yes, really >>> expensive cancer drugs sometimes aren't available). And while some do have >>> private healthcare, it probably doesn't really allow for the kind of >>> drug-picking these ads are hypothesised on. Private healthcare is really to >>> make sure you don't have to wait for surgeries etc. It's probably not going >>> to cover you for an expensive cocktail of drugs otherwise unavailable on >>> the NHS. >>> >>> The interview is airing in the UK tonight on ITV, although obviously it >>> has already been fully gutted by all the news programmes this morning. >>> Personally I'm getting more - small r- republican as the days go by. The >>> Royal Family needs to radically modernise or ship out. >>> >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 3:16 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I am not in the target demo to watch an interview of Oprah interviewing >>>> “Royals” (though the headline that they allege that someone at the palace >>>> was worried their kids skin would be too dark sounds about right). >>>> >>>> I did find this Twitter thread interesting, in which Brits who were >>>> able to watch the American broadcast of the interview are obsessed with how >>>> many commercials Americans are exposed to for drugs. It is a reminder that >>>> healthcare does not have to be a business. Would be nice to put more >>>> restrictions again on direct-to-consumer advertising in the US. >>>> >>>> Also, I thought Oprah had a relationship with ABC, but it looks like >>>> this interview was in CBS? >>>> >>>> https://twitter.com/ayeshaasiddiqi/status/1368901637604007939?s=21 >>>> -- >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLU_ug38DOpU4%2B55BaNC_aFODog6AcUz3fqc-BC_B9ZnQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYLU_ug38DOpU4%2B55BaNC_aFODog6AcUz3fqc-BC_B9ZnQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAD_sJGDr4hLEEa87ma1bhK6%3Dsy5F_ZeO9G0M_oG36oJ7V8FZhw%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAD_sJGDr4hLEEa87ma1bhK6%3Dsy5F_ZeO9G0M_oG36oJ7V8FZhw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> Sent from Gmail Mobile >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TVorNotTV" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYJsBgxcL3t%3DwnZ%2BTq2hV7xDnz2ZvcSiAWz8bAzSzeD6Aw%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYJsBgxcL3t%3DwnZ%2BTq2hV7xDnz2ZvcSiAWz8bAzSzeD6Aw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > Kevin M. 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