On Mon, Mar 8, 2021, 9:52 AM Kevin M. <drunkbastar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just to add to the discussion, one of my fellow NBC Pages worked for a
> years in ad sales for the news division. Drug companies and semi-related
> life insurance companies notoriously buy ad time on the cheap, meaning if
> the program you’re watching contains a lot of pharmaceutical commercials,
> the program in question is not a big money maker for the network that airs
> it.
>
I see the boner pill ads with the hot MILF wives during all the NFL and
college football games.



> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 9:41 AM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Right, only NZ and The US have such open direct-to-consumer advertising;
>> and I am old enough to remember when it was if not prohibited at least rare
>> here. And even in the US, most insurance plans have formularies, with
>> expensive or not fully established medications not available. One purpose
>> of all the “ask your doctor” ads is to put consumer pressure not just on
>> doctors but on insurers to make certain drugs available.
>>
>> I don’t really understand how you guys can afford both socialized
>> medicine and the Royal albatross, while we still have so many millions
>> without access to basic healthcare.
>>
>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 at 7:50 AM Adam Bowie <a...@adambowie.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I know of at least two people who stayed up until 2am to watch it live
>>> on some kind of dodgy stream somewhere. And yes, there were a lot of
>>> comments on the volume of advertising the interview had. I don't know if it
>>> was more than the usual 19-20 mins per hour, but that is higher than we get
>>> in the UK where we were, until recently, regulated by the EU and still have
>>> limits on the number of breaks (two mid-breaks in a one hour show, one
>>> break in a half-hour), and the number of ads.
>>>
>>> But literally every person I talk to who's been to the US for vacation
>>> or business will mention the pharmaceutical ads. It's worth noting that
>>> this has been (at least until very recently - I believe Canada might now
>>> allow them) an almost uniquely American thing. In the UK and EU, you only
>>> see drug adverts for over the counter drugs. There's no "Ask your doctor"
>>> advertising. There's also much hilarity at the nature of the ads - 30
>>> seconds of benefits/ 30 seconds of hideous side effects. I believe that
>>> this type of advertising was only also legal in New Zealand. So yes - it's
>>> about as strange to us as seeing cigarette advertising on TV.
>>>
>>> Of course, European health services are very different. In the UK, most
>>> people are treated under the NHS and you basically don't get a choice about
>>> drug treatment. Not every drug is even available - there are committees
>>> that determine which drugs the NHS will make available. (So  yes, really
>>> expensive cancer drugs sometimes aren't available). And while some do have
>>> private healthcare, it probably doesn't really allow for the kind of
>>> drug-picking these ads are hypothesised on. Private healthcare is really to
>>> make sure you don't have to wait for surgeries etc. It's probably not going
>>> to cover you for an expensive cocktail of drugs otherwise unavailable on
>>> the NHS.
>>>
>>> The interview is airing in the UK tonight on ITV, although obviously it
>>> has already been fully gutted by all the news programmes this morning.
>>> Personally I'm getting more - small r- republican as the days go by. The
>>> Royal Family needs to radically modernise or ship out.
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 3:16 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am not in the target demo to watch an interview of Oprah interviewing
>>>> “Royals” (though the headline that they allege that someone at the palace
>>>> was worried their kids skin would be too dark sounds about right).
>>>>
>>>> I did find this Twitter thread interesting, in which Brits who were
>>>> able to watch the American broadcast of the interview are obsessed with how
>>>> many commercials Americans are exposed to for drugs. It is a reminder that
>>>> healthcare does not have to be a business. Would be nice to put more
>>>> restrictions again on direct-to-consumer advertising in the US.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I thought Oprah had a relationship with ABC, but it looks like
>>>> this interview was in CBS?
>>>>
>>>> https://twitter.com/ayeshaasiddiqi/status/1368901637604007939?s=21
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