As a system administrator, my choice is to use vi for my UNIX/AIX duties,
but I find it's quite a useful tool for program editing too.  In fact, I'm
the only one in our shop that uses vi on a regular basis.  I still can't
figure out why the remainder of our programming staff use AE.  I agree it
has it's place for some tasks, but for day to day editing, I find vi easy to
use, and it didn't take too long to get used to, when I learned it years
ago.  The best part is that you'll find it on most flavors of UNIX boxes,
and the basic commands stay the same. -Phil-

-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Guillaume [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe


Adrian Matthews wrote:
> Does anyone actually use the editor for cutting code these days though?
> 

Absolutely! From what I've seen, most folks who take the time to learn 
vi will never go back.

The only thing AE is good for is macro-fixing savedlists of records, 
IMHO. It really astonishes me that folks continue to use AE for editing 
programs where you can really only look at one line at a time.

> I've been using full screen GUI editors for years now. I think I'd pull
> my hair out going back.

GUI editors generally lack many of the vi features: use of regular 
expressions, superior cut and paste, multiple cut/paste buffers, the 
ability to read the output of external commands into the file, the 
ability to employ Unix shell utilities (like sed or awk) to edit the 
file etc etc.

The only GUI editor I'd use for programming is vim! It is absolutely 
worth it to learn vi or vim for editing in UniData (and, I'm sure 
UniVerse too). If you're on Windows, there's Vim for Windows.

I don't know much about UniVerse, but I can't imagine that an editor 
should make any difference as most editors should be available to either 
platform. On UniData just set the variable UDT_EDIT=/usr/local/bin/vim 
(or whatever your editor is) and voila.

-- Louis
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