Alfredo, I forget to ask, did you really mean to say "you are not entitled to come here and tell us that the MO that has worked for us for years doesn't work"?
Satyajit, thanks for the share. https://scrollback.io/ubuntu-gnome/all looks great. It looks like an easy way for people to use IRC and seems to offers a simple way for non-participants to catchup on the chat. Regards, *Charlie* On 31 July 2015 at 13:24, Charlie Moss <char...@charliemoss.com> wrote: > Alfredo. > > I am just sharing my experiences as a new member, offering a perspective > and making suggestions in advance of your meeting. According to the poll > there are over two hundred people willing to help, yet I have not seen > anyone introduce themselves via the mailing list (as per the instructions > on the 'Getting Involved' page.) > > 'Stages of Grief"??? What does that have to do with this situation"? I am > taking about the stages new ideas must go through. Basically, new ideas are > first rejected, then they meet with objection, then they are accepted and > then they become the norm. I will try to find the exact name of the theory > and it's stages. 'Elisabeth Kübler-Ross's Stages of Grief' have nothing > to do with it, so belittling comments like "Really? I thought we were all > adults here." are not necessary. > > As I wrote, "if it works, stay with it". > > Regards, > > *Charlie* > > > > On 31 July 2015 at 12:49, Alfredo Hernández <aldomann.desi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> We stay with this system because it simply works. You see, the core >> members of the team are spread around the world (from America to >> Australia), we need a communication system that is open and simple to use >> at any time of the day by anyone around the world. We have experience with >> this and we know which communication systems work and which do not. I'm >> sorry man, but you are not entitled to come here and tell us that the MO >> that has worked for us for years doesn't work. Sure, hangouts and voice >> meetings in general are very handy (and we use them from time to time when >> it's justified), but it's impossible to have a voice meeting with more than >> 10 people at the same time (hell, it's even a pain in the arse in a >> face-to-face meeting); IRC works perfect in this matter: >> >> >> - It relatively destroys the time barrier. Any person can make the >> effort to stay late or wake up earlier than usual and attend a chat; we >> won't force any member to stay awake till 2/3 in the morning to have video >> meeting (this is impractical and will drive people away from the project). >> - It allows anyone to engage in the chat; anyone with basic English >> skills can participate in or even simply attend the meeting (alas, not >> everyone here is from America, Canada, the UK, or Australia exclusively). >> >> >> I'm not here to make waves or criticize. >> >> But that's precisely what you have been doing over the past e-mails. >> There's a huge difference between giving useful criticism as a new member >> and just telling us we are doing things wrongly and when we refuse your >> *advices, >> *you plainly say we're going through the Küber-Ross stages of grief. >> Really? I thought we were all adults here. >> >> Cheers, >> Alfredo >> > >
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