I feel that a recorded video meeting is the only solution.  There is so
much misunderstanding with written conversation. Hangouts can record to
YouTube for later reference or public sharing.  The searchability is not
there, but that's a small price to pay and it could be transcribed if
necessary.

I know that I am not part of the core team (or any team as I have not found
the secret entrance yet) so will not be invited to this meeting.

Regards,

*Charlie*



On 29 July 2015 at 11:06, Narcis Garcia <informat...@actiu.net> wrote:

> I attach a small guide for users.
> - It's FOSS (server & client & protocol)
> - Service can be deployed but free channels can be also asked to
> existing collectives.
>
>
> El 29/07/15 a les 12:02, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
> > A chat log isn't a meeting minutes.
> >
> > Better example made with Gobby:
> > http://wiki.davical.org/index.php/Community_Support/Minutes_29June2015
> >
> >
> > El 28/07/15 a les 17:25, Bruce Pieterse ha escrit:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 28/07/2015 09:02, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> >>> How will minutes be taken?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> El 27/07/15 a les 18:37, Bruce Pieterse ha escrit:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 26/07/2015 03:59, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Ali/amjjawad <amjja...@gnome.org
> >>>>> <mailto:amjja...@gnome.org>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Hi everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello again,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Team Leaders of Ubuntu GNOME sub-teams, active members and/or
> >>>>>     whoever wish to participate/contribute, may I have your attention
> >>>>>     please?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     It is planning time.My time is +10
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     I have just published:
> >>>>>     https://ubuntugnome.org/feedback-time-results/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     I know this is late but better late than never.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Feedback and collecting data/opinions is over now. We need to
> move
> >>>>>     forward or else, we shall end up, just like the previous cycle,
> >>>>>     without a proper planning.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Yes, blame me for this if you wish but NO, I am not the only one
> who
> >>>>>     is part of this family. We have agreed to work as a TEAM and we
> have
> >>>>>     to honor this agreement and show our commitment to it. That said,
> >>>>>     putting the past a side, let's move on for a better future,
> shall we?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     I'm sending this to the entire list because I hate to hide
> anything.
> >>>>>     In fact, we have no secrets to hide on the first place.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *Our performance, as a _team_, is REALLY BAD, IMHO.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *
> >>>>>     Blame me again for this but also keep in mind, there are other
> >>>>>     drivers or team leaders. I just survived a massive storm in my
> real
> >>>>>     life. I was this close to lose everything and everyone I have in
> my
> >>>>>     life. Thank God, I survived.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     When I first joined this project back in 22-July-2013 (YES, 2
> >>>>>     years!), I had a clear vision that I didn't keep for myself but
> >>>>>     shared it with the entire community: to build a team/community
> that
> >>>>>     can lead itself without the need to a leader.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Sadly, we haven't yet reached that phase/level yet :(
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     The good news is: you still have me around whenever you need me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Truth is: you need to understand that no one lives forever and
> this
> >>>>>     is a digital world, so changes might be much faster than real
> life.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     No, I am not leaving. I have just turned 2 years with this family
> >>>>>     and there is NO WAY to leave unless all of you ask me to leave.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Yes, I have so much more to show.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     However, this whole community needs to understand: if we shall
> >>>>>     _*not*_ work as one team, things might get worse, much worse than
> >>>>>     anyone can imagine. I have mentioned that, 2 years ago, to
> Lubuntu
> >>>>>     Team. They never listened to me. After I left them, they started
> to
> >>>>>     understand what I was talking about. They took some months until
> >>>>>     they started to take 'some' of my advices. I do hate to see
> Ubuntu
> >>>>>     GNOME to face the same thing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Tomorrow is Friday, then Saturday and then Sunday. Is it
> possible to
> >>>>>     have a meeting during these days? if not, we need to get this
> done ASAP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     If Plan A (meeting) will fail, my Plan B is to go for 15.10
> without
> >>>>>     a proper and a clear plan. Why? because we're a team and this is
> a
> >>>>>     community project, not a one-man-project.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     My time is +10 GMT at the moment.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Should I set the date and time for the meeting and then send it?!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sorry, it took me 3 days to get back to this email. Busy real life as
> >>>>> always.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Monday, 27-July-2015
> >>>>> I am available from:
> >>>>> 10:00AM +10 GMT timing - until - 2:00PM +10 GMT timing
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> From 4:00PM +10 GMT timing - until 11:00PM +10 GMT timing
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Who can make it for Monday? the meeting should be maximum 60 minutes,
> >>>>> regardless which platform we'll use.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Should you insist not to have a meeting? then I can present a
> >>>>>     one-man-plan then you're free to vote good or bad but I DO HATE
> to
> >>>>>     do this. I am looking forward to work with a team ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Thank you!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     --
> >>>>>     Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     Best Regards,
> >>>>>     Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     *http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME
> >>>>>     <http://ubuntugnome.org/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sorry again for the short notice.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> @Narcis Garcia
> >>>>> Google Hangout: https://www.google.com/intl/en/+/learnmore/hangouts/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME
> >>>>> <http://ubuntugnome.org/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Ali,
> >>>>
> >>>> I think a meeting for Monday (today for me) is to short notice. Could
> we
> >>>> perhaps reschedule for next week Monday or the following Monday (3
> >>>> August)? I'm sure that's ample time for every one who wants to attend.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also can we:
> >>>>
> >>>> * Schedule the meeting time in UTC
> >>>> * Use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Meetings/Agenda to gauge
> >>>> interest and possible attendance
> >>>> * Start populating the agenda to discuss items
> >>>> * Use IRC for our first meeting and possibly discuss alternative
> >>>> platforms if any body wants to?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi Narcis,
> >>
> >> Normally with meetingology. You can see an example layout here:
> >>
> http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-05-26-15.30.moin.txt
> >>
> >> IRC logs will also be available.
> >>
> >> Although I'm not sure if meetingology is available for the #ubuntu-gnome
> >> channel by default, perhaps some one can confirm if it is enabled?
> >>
> >
>
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