From: "Mike V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'KAREN ALLEN'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <UnivCity@list.purple.com>
Subject: RE: [UC] Car jacking confirmation
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:18:33 -0400
Actually, you guys invented that rule for yourselves.
Did they? I'd love to see where. Show me, please.
- Mike V.
ucneighbors -- Residents of University City
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[Ucneighbors] Howdy Neighbors
Kyle Cassidy kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu
Fri Jul 27 18:47:38 EDT 2007
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excellent. welcome aboard. we'll see how this goes for a few days. once more
people get on, i'll experiment with forced moderation. the cool thing about
this software is that i can pre-ban glenn!
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MLamond at aol.com MLamond at aol.com
Fri Jul 27 18:57:05 EDT 2007
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In a message dated 7/27/07 6:49:04 PM, kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu writes:
the cool thing about this software is that i can pre-ban glenn!
This will be heaven. But, I hope he doesn't know where you live.
Melani
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: JOIN UC NEIGHBORS FOR CIVILIZED CONVERSATION Re: [UC] Since the
real reason for the new list is...
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:28:22 EDT
In a message dated 7/30/07 11:45:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> ......Kyle didn't start the UCNeighbor list because he was being
> childish or selfish and walking away with his bat and ball. He started
it because
> the communication on this listserv is becoming petty, myopic and
insulting.
> It's also becoming a crowded room (virtually speaking) with some loud
voices
> trying to drown out the once speaking in a normal tone. Some people do
act
> like they own this list and like to think that they can dictate and
frame the
> conversation and debates that occur here. Many people have started doing
the
> serial deleting of [UC]-labelled emails, because it's become less
relevant and
> helpful to the average UC resident. I don't know about you, but this
puts
> people a hair-trigger away from leaving the listserv and the community
> discussion that occurs here. No one is excluded or protected on Kyle's
new listserv
> either. You can still take the conversation there, if you want to, and
your bat
> and ball.
>
> This weekend, the heavy-handed people on the purple list found out that
their
readers now have the option to move away, and clearly, they don't want that
to happen. So - did they offer to moderate their language and help
develop a
set of guidelines? No, they became even more heavy-handed! Several
attacked Bruce Anderson for suggesting guidelines. Some even tried to
blame Jon
Herrmann, who wrote that he had not read the last 13,000 emails posted on
the
purple list in the last 15 months - now, that shows how involved HE is,
doesn't
it? Some renewed conspiracy theories, one generated new spoof posts, and
as
usual, a small but noisy group attacked the person who saw a need to do
something and actually DID it.
But, why should we be stuck with a dysfunctional list which will not
change?
I came in for criticism for saying it would be heaven to be on a list
without
one particularly voluminous ranter who has focused on me, sometimes
alarmingly. Why would I want to be on a list with member who sends out
fantasy emails
about what he wants to have happen to me in Clark Park? Why would I
recommend that the buyers and sellers I work with join a listserv where
they'd read
that kind of stuff with my name in it, where a neighborhood fanatic would
single me out for ridicule though I've never even met the man? Is it any
surprise
I think it will be "heaven" to be on a list where that sort of email isn't
likely to be tolerated?
Kyle CAN ban that individual on the new list, but he won't, if the
individual
is civil to his fellow list members. Anyone can sign up, and the archives
are public, so even non members can read what's written. There's no
conspiracy and lots of transparency.
I'm afraid that "spoof" addresses have been posted more often than the
actual
one for Kyle's new list, so I'll include it again here to counteract the
usual poster of misinformation.
http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors
- Melani Lamond
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ucneighbors -- Residents of University City
About ucneighbors English (USA)
A mailing list for residents of Philadelphia's University City. Talk about
plays, restaurants, trash removal, lost dogs and the like. Welcome aboard.
Be nice.
*************************************************
[Ucneighbors] Howdy Neighbors
Kyle Cassidy kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu
Fri Jul 27 18:47:38 EDT 2007
Previous message: [Ucneighbors] Howdy Neighbors
Next message: [Ucneighbors] Kyle's list
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excellent. welcome aboard. we'll see how this goes for a few days. once more
people get on, i'll experiment with forced moderation. the cool thing about
this software is that i can pre-ban glenn!
*****************************************************
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: JOIN UC NEIGHBORS FOR CIVILIZED CONVERSATION Re: [UC] Since the
real reason for the new list is...
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:28:22 EDT
In a message dated 7/30/07 11:45:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> ......Kyle didn't start the UCNeighbor list because he was being
> childish or selfish and walking away with his bat and ball. He started
it because
> the communication on this listserv is becoming petty, myopic and
insulting.
> It's also becoming a crowded room (virtually speaking) with some loud
voices
> trying to drown out the once speaking in a normal tone. Some people do
act
> like they own this list and like to think that they can dictate and
frame the
> conversation and debates that occur here. Many people have started doing
the
> serial deleting of [UC]-labelled emails, because it's become less
relevant and
> helpful to the average UC resident. I don't know about you, but this
puts
> people a hair-trigger away from leaving the listserv and the community
> discussion that occurs here. No one is excluded or protected on Kyle's
new listserv
> either. You can still take the conversation there, if you want to, and
your bat
> and ball.
>
> This weekend, the heavy-handed people on the purple list found out that
their
readers now have the option to move away, and clearly, they don't want that
to happen. So - did they offer to moderate their language and help
develop a
set of guidelines? No, they became even more heavy-handed! Several
attacked Bruce Anderson for suggesting guidelines. Some even tried to
blame Jon
Herrmann, who wrote that he had not read the last 13,000 emails posted on
the
purple list in the last 15 months - now, that shows how involved HE is,
doesn't
it? Some renewed conspiracy theories, one generated new spoof posts, and
as
usual, a small but noisy group attacked the person who saw a need to do
something and actually DID it.
But, why should we be stuck with a dysfunctional list which will not
change?
I came in for criticism for saying it would be heaven to be on a list
without
one particularly voluminous ranter who has focused on me, sometimes
alarmingly. Why would I want to be on a list with member who sends out
fantasy emails
about what he wants to have happen to me in Clark Park? Why would I
recommend that the buyers and sellers I work with join a listserv where
they'd read
that kind of stuff with my name in it, where a neighborhood fanatic would
single me out for ridicule though I've never even met the man? Is it any
surprise
I think it will be "heaven" to be on a list where that sort of email isn't
likely to be tolerated?
Kyle CAN ban that individual on the new list, but he won't, if the
individual
is civil to his fellow list members. Anyone can sign up, and the archives
are public, so even non members can read what's written. There's no
conspiracy and lots of transparency.
I'm afraid that "spoof" addresses have been posted more often than the
actual
one for Kyle's new list, so I'll include it again here to counteract the
usual poster of misinformation.
http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors
- Melani Lamond
**************************************
Get a sneak peek of the
all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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