Ah, I believe you are under a misapprehension, Karen. Kyle made up some rules for his mailing list, yes, but that rule certainly doesn't apply to this list, and despite what certain hatemongering gadflies may think, Kyle does not speak for everyone who happened to sign up for the mailing list that he founded.
- Mike V. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KAREN ALLEN Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:52 PM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: RE: [UC] Car jacking confirmation From: "Mike V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'KAREN ALLEN'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <UnivCity@list.purple.com> >Subject: RE: [UC] Car jacking confirmation >Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 14:18:33 -0400 >>>>Actually, you guys invented that rule for yourselves. >Did they? I'd love to see where. Show me, please. > >- Mike V. ucneighbors -- Residents of University City About ucneighbors English (USA) A mailing list for residents of Philadelphia's University City. Talk about plays, restaurants, trash removal, lost dogs and the like. Welcome aboard. Be nice. ************************************************* [Ucneighbors] Howdy Neighbors Kyle Cassidy kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu Fri Jul 27 18:47:38 EDT 2007 Previous message: [Ucneighbors] Howdy Neighbors Next message: [Ucneighbors] Kyle's list Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- excellent. welcome aboard. we'll see how this goes for a few days. once more people get on, i'll experiment with forced moderation. the cool thing about this software is that i can pre-ban glenn! ***************************************************** [Ucneighbors] Howdy Neighbors MLamond at aol.com MLamond at aol.com Fri Jul 27 18:57:05 EDT 2007 Previous message: [Ucneighbors] Kyle's list Next message: [Ucneighbors] Wow! So this is what it's like on the other side! Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- In a message dated 7/27/07 6:49:04 PM, kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu writes: >the cool thing about this software is that i can pre-ban glenn! > > This will be heaven. But, I hope he doesn't know where you live. Melani **************************************************** >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], UnivCity@list.purple.com >Subject: JOIN UC NEIGHBORS FOR CIVILIZED CONVERSATION Re: [UC] Since >the >real reason for the new list is... >Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:28:22 EDT > > >In a message dated 7/30/07 11:45:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > ......Kyle didn't start the UCNeighbor list because he was > > being childish or selfish and walking away with his bat and ball. He > > started >it because > > the communication on this listserv is becoming petty, myopic and >insulting. > > It's also becoming a crowded room (virtually speaking) with some > > loud >voices > > trying to drown out the once speaking in a normal tone. Some people > > do >act > > like they own this list and like to think that they can dictate and >frame the > > conversation and debates that occur here. Many people have started > > doing >the > > serial deleting of [UC]-labelled emails, because it's become less >relevant and > > helpful to the average UC resident. I don't know about you, but this >puts > > people a hair-trigger away from leaving the listserv and the > > community discussion that occurs here. No one is excluded or > > protected on Kyle's >new listserv > > either. You can still take the conversation there, if you want to, > > and >your bat > > and ball. > > > > This weekend, the heavy-handed people on the purple list found out > > that >their >readers now have the option to move away, and clearly, they don't want that >to happen. So - did they offer to moderate their language and help >develop a >set of guidelines? No, they became even more heavy-handed! Several >attacked Bruce Anderson for suggesting guidelines. Some even tried to >blame Jon >Herrmann, who wrote that he had not read the last 13,000 emails posted >on >the >purple list in the last 15 months - now, that shows how involved HE is, >doesn't >it? Some renewed conspiracy theories, one generated new spoof posts, and >as >usual, a small but noisy group attacked the person who saw a need to do >something and actually DID it. > >But, why should we be stuck with a dysfunctional list which will not >change? > >I came in for criticism for saying it would be heaven to be on a list >without >one particularly voluminous ranter who has focused on me, sometimes >alarmingly. Why would I want to be on a list with member who sends out >fantasy emails >about what he wants to have happen to me in Clark Park? Why would I >recommend that the buyers and sellers I work with join a listserv where >they'd read >that kind of stuff with my name in it, where a neighborhood fanatic would >single me out for ridicule though I've never even met the man? Is it any >surprise >I think it will be "heaven" to be on a list where that sort of email isn't >likely to be tolerated? > >Kyle CAN ban that individual on the new list, but he won't, if the >individual >is civil to his fellow list members. Anyone can sign up, and the archives >are public, so even non members can read what's written. There's no >conspiracy and lots of transparency. > >I'm afraid that "spoof" addresses have been posted more often than the >actual >one for Kyle's new list, so I'll include it again here to counteract the >usual poster of misinformation. > > http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors > >- Melani Lamond > > >************************************** > Get a sneak peek of the >all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ucneighbors -- Residents of University City About ucneighbors English (USA) A mailing list for residents of Philadelphia's University City. Talk about plays, restaurants, trash removal, lost dogs and the like. Welcome aboard. Be nice. ************************************************* [Ucneighbors] Howdy Neighbors Kyle Cassidy kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu Fri Jul 27 18:47:38 EDT 2007 Previous message: [Ucneighbors] Howdy Neighbors Next message: [Ucneighbors] Kyle's list Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- excellent. welcome aboard. we'll see how this goes for a few days. once more people get on, i'll experiment with forced moderation. the cool thing about this software is that i can pre-ban glenn! ***************************************************** >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], UnivCity@list.purple.com >Subject: JOIN UC NEIGHBORS FOR CIVILIZED CONVERSATION Re: [UC] Since >the >real reason for the new list is... >Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:28:22 EDT > > >In a message dated 7/30/07 11:45:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > ......Kyle didn't start the UCNeighbor list because he was > > being childish or selfish and walking away with his bat and ball. He > > started >it because > > the communication on this listserv is becoming petty, myopic and >insulting. > > It's also becoming a crowded room (virtually speaking) with some > > loud >voices > > trying to drown out the once speaking in a normal tone. Some people > > do >act > > like they own this list and like to think that they can dictate and >frame the > > conversation and debates that occur here. Many people have started > > doing >the > > serial deleting of [UC]-labelled emails, because it's become less >relevant and > > helpful to the average UC resident. I don't know about you, but this >puts > > people a hair-trigger away from leaving the listserv and the > > community discussion that occurs here. No one is excluded or > > protected on Kyle's >new listserv > > either. You can still take the conversation there, if you want to, > > and >your bat > > and ball. > > > > This weekend, the heavy-handed people on the purple list found out > > that >their >readers now have the option to move away, and clearly, they don't want that >to happen. So - did they offer to moderate their language and help >develop a >set of guidelines? No, they became even more heavy-handed! Several >attacked Bruce Anderson for suggesting guidelines. Some even tried to >blame Jon >Herrmann, who wrote that he had not read the last 13,000 emails posted >on >the >purple list in the last 15 months - now, that shows how involved HE is, >doesn't >it? Some renewed conspiracy theories, one generated new spoof posts, and >as >usual, a small but noisy group attacked the person who saw a need to do >something and actually DID it. > >But, why should we be stuck with a dysfunctional list which will not >change? > >I came in for criticism for saying it would be heaven to be on a list >without >one particularly voluminous ranter who has focused on me, sometimes >alarmingly. Why would I want to be on a list with member who sends out >fantasy emails >about what he wants to have happen to me in Clark Park? Why would I >recommend that the buyers and sellers I work with join a listserv where >they'd read >that kind of stuff with my name in it, where a neighborhood fanatic would >single me out for ridicule though I've never even met the man? Is it any >surprise >I think it will be "heaven" to be on a list where that sort of email isn't >likely to be tolerated? > >Kyle CAN ban that individual on the new list, but he won't, if the >individual >is civil to his fellow list members. Anyone can sign up, and the archives >are public, so even non members can read what's written. There's no >conspiracy and lots of transparency. > >I'm afraid that "spoof" addresses have been posted more often than the >actual >one for Kyle's new list, so I'll include it again here to counteract the >usual poster of misinformation. > > http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors > >- Melani Lamond > > >************************************** > Get a sneak peek of the >all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." 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