Thanks for refocusing the discussion on the real issue, Karen. Kimm
On 9/30/07 7:46 PM, "KAREN ALLEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "If we don't know if Penn is giving it to the police for free, or UCD is > renting it and giving it to the police for free, or if the police are paying > their own rent - then we don't know what the "connection" is between UCD and > the police station, although you've stated that there isn't one". > > Whether Penn, UCD or some combination charges the City no rent, market rent, > subsidized rent, or whatever, that doesn't give UCD the right to assert > authority, whether actual or symbolic, over the personnel and functions of the > Philadelphia Police Department. One is a non-profit organization, the other > is a branch of municipal government. To take this chain of logic to its > conclusion is to state or suggest state that the independence of a branch of > municipal government can be redirected to a private entity merely by providing > free or subsidized rent. > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:34:10 -0400 > Subject: Re: [UC] Who do sworn officers of the Philadelphia Police report to? > To: univcity@list.purple.com > merel > In a message dated 9/30/07 4:55:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I meant what I said... It's not complicated. I provided the people on the > useful list with the information that Penn owns the property and provides > space to UCD and the Police Dept. No more, no less. > > So it appears that you have nothing to substantiate your claim that... > > In a message dated 9/30/07 1:04:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ...So there isn't even that tenuous connection between Lt McCurdy and UCD. > > ..."that tenuous connection" in your earlier email being who "provides" the > space, when the provider, in the way you were using the word, would actually > be the entity absorbing the cost for the space, right? If we don't know if > Penn is giving it to the police for free, or UCD is renting it and giving it > to the police for free, or if the police are paying their own rent - then we > don't know what the "connection" is between UCD and the police station, > although you've stated that there isn't one. > > You were attempting to lead your readers to a conclusion without actually > having the facts necessary to reach the conclusion. And as usual, you were > happy to resort to ad hominem attacks to change the subject when I asked > questions. Whenever you present distorted statements or unsupported > conclusions as fact on this list, it is likely that I'll question them. > > A careful reader, > Melani Lamond > > > Melani Lamond, Associate Broker > Urban & Bye, Realtor > 3529 Lancaster Ave. > Philadelphia, PA 19104 > cell phone 215-356-7266 > office phone 215-222-4800, ext. 113 > office fax 215-222-1101 > > > ************************************** > See what's new at http://www.aol.com >