pablolie;497353 Wrote: 
> People with other Linux distros see exactly the same issues, so no, it
> is not an Ubuntu issue.
> 

I run Debian and don't see this issue.

But, then, I don't use external NTFS drives mounted with my userid...

> 
> As Pat pointed out, it is true Ubuntu has changed, however it does
> requires application developers to implement changes, which doesn't seem
> to have happened with SBS.
> 

And what change is that specifically?

Hint: SBS is NOT an application.  It is a server.

> 
> And I have not claimed it is a userdid issue. The userid can be
> "Beijing Bicycles" for all I care. Once again, for the last time, it is
> about user *privileges*. and whatever userid SBS is going for these days
> is not installed with useful privileges, which is why many Ubuntu users
> need to fiddle around with permission settings manually
> post-installation to allow SBS to access an external drive that is there
> to be used by everybody. See attached and check out the first line - it
> is a silly setting. That is why users need to fiddle around with drive
> permissions post-SBS, which incidentally poses a much higher security
> risk than configuring the user privileges the right way to start with.
> Because after what most people do, everybody and their dog now will have
> access to the external storage device.

User ids are essential to permissions.  User -names- (like Beijing
Bicycles', which is illegal as a uname, btw...) are irrelevant.

Your problem is you choose to ignore them, when they are actually how
permissions work.

If you want proper permissions to be honored on a filesystem, using
NTFS is your fist mistake.

None of this has anything to do with SBS, which is set correctly
according to Debian Policy: it runs on its own user id so that YOU, the
system adminsitrator, can determine exactly what you wish to allow it to
see.  This is the same as any other server process.

It is started in run level two, after all networking has started and
all disks mounted (these are run in run level 'S').  The same place as
other servers.

SBS is NOT an application: it is a server.  It should be run at system
startup, not when you happen to log in to an X session at the console.


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