Ah, that explains why it's missing. We're using Gradle on this project to import dependencies. I'll add that dependency as well
On Wed, Jan 11, 2023, 12:06 PM Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> wrote: > Looks like you need commons-beanutils:commons-beanutils:1.9.4 [1]. This > dependency is declared in the artemis-server [2] module so you should get > it automatically if you're using Maven to manage your dependencies. > > > Justin > > [1] > > https://search.maven.org/artifact/commons-beanutils/commons-beanutils/1.9.4/jar > [2] > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blob/main/artemis-server/pom.xml#L158 > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 1:26 PM Michael Brennock <mbrenn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > John, I appreciate your suggestions! I will try to put them to work > today. > > > > Perhaps they can help me resolve a runtime error I'm getting from > > embeddedActiveMQ.start()? the stacktrace looks something like this: > > > > [23-Jan-10 14:16:50:330] [INFO] [BrokerInitializer:197] - Embedded > Artemis > > Broker being started > > java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: > > org/apache/commons/beanutils/BeanIntrospector > > at > > > > > org.apache.activemq.artemis.utils.critical.CriticalAnalyzerPolicy.<clinit>(CriticalAnalyzerPolicy.java:28) > > at > > > > > org.apache.activemq.artemis.api.config.ActiveMQDefaultConfiguration.<clinit>(ActiveMQDefaultConfiguration.java:593) > > at > > > > > org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.config.impl.ConfigurationImpl.<init>(ConfigurationImpl.java:111) > > at > > > > > org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.config.impl.FileConfiguration.<init>(FileConfiguration.java:34) > > at > > > > > org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server.embedded.EmbeddedActiveMQ.initStart(EmbeddedActiveMQ.java:125) > > at > > > > > org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server.embedded.EmbeddedActiveMQ.start(EmbeddedActiveMQ.java:115) > > at > > > > > com.pdxinc.eps.jms.broker.BrokerInitializer.createBroker(BrokerInitializer.java:198) > > ... > > ... > > Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: > > org.apache.commons.beanutils.BeanIntrospector > > at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:387) > > at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:418) > > at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:355) > > at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:351) > > ... 18 more > > > > > > Any idea what dependency might be missing? > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 8:53 AM Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > In particular, AMQ 5 let's you create several objects off the same > > > Session and use them concurrently... > > > > > > For what it's worth, the JMS specification states that Session objects > > are > > > *not* thread-safe so any concurrent use is a spec violation. You may > find > > > implementations where concurrent use happens to work or may, in fact, > be > > > explicitly designed to work, but relying on non-spec behavior is not > > > recommended as it handicaps portability (as you have found). > > > > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 11:18 AM John Lilley > > > <john.lil...@redpointglobal.com.invalid> wrote: > > > > > >> Michael, > > >> > > >> We have recently migrated from AMQ 5 to Artemis, and we used embedded > > >> brokers for testing, so I might be able to help. > > >> > > >> Jolokia (web service API) is not available in the embedded brokers, we > > >> migrated to using the queue-based management API instead for things > like > > >> queue counts and lists. But I think that absence of the web server is > > true > > >> for both AMQ 5 and Artemis. > > >> > > >> We create the embedded broker using > > >> EmbeddedActiveMQ broker = new EmbeddedActiveMQ(); > > >> broker.setConfigResourcePath("mybroker.xml"); > > >> broker.start(); > > >> where mybroker.xml is the Artemis broker.xml file stored as a > top-level > > >> java resource > > >> > > >> We found that Artemis is much more strict about prohibiting > multi-thread > > >> access to JMS objects than AMQ 5, and we had to refactor some code > > because > > >> of that. In particular, AMQ 5 let's you create several objects off the > > same > > >> Session and use them concurrently; Artemis does not, you must make a > new > > >> Session for each. > > >> > > >> Artemis clients use thread pooling; it is much more efficient and you > > can > > >> create many more MessageListener instances without incurring a lot of > > idle > > >> threads. > > >> > > >> We found that using session/producer pooling was more important with > > >> Artemis than it was with AMQ 5, because of increased broker memory > > >> footprint* for queues and sessions. That being said, pooling is > awesome. > > >> > > >> Similarly, we found RPC reply-to queue pooling to also be important. > > >> > > >> - We did not measure this directly with controlled testing. Memory > > >> observations came from production systems running load tests and > > there > > >> could have been other factors such as session leakage. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> [image: rg] <https://www.redpointglobal.com/> > > >> > > >> John Lilley > > >> > > >> Data Management Chief Architect, Redpoint Global Inc. > > >> > > >> 888 Worcester Street, Suite 200 Wellesley, MA 02482 > > >> > > >> *M: *+1 7209385761 <+1%207209385761> | john.lil...@redpointglobal.com > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Michael Brennock <mbrenn...@gmail.com> > > >> Sent: Friday, January 6, 2023 12:50 PM > > >> To: users@activemq.apache.org > > >> Subject: Re: Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq > > to > > >> artemis > > >> > > >> *** [Caution] This email is from an external source. Please use > caution > > >> responding, opening attachments or clicking embedded links. *** > > >> > > >> Thank you for your feedback Justin. I will be more specific in my > > >> descriptions. > > >> > > >> - First, the activeMQ application creates an instance of > > >> BrokerService from BrokerFactory.createBroker(), with a > > activemq-config.xml > > >> for its argument > > >> - Next, the queues themselves are loaded one at a time by locating > > >> their beans. The beans are wired in the classic spring fashion from > > >> eps.broker.xml. The connected are created with ConnectionFactory > and > > >> started with start() > > >> - (I'm perfectly happy to update this to the Artemis > configuration > > >> file method instead) > > >> > > >> If I understand correctly, I need to replace the references to > > >> activemq-broker-initializer with EmbeddedActiveMQ, which comes from > > >> Artemis. Next, I need to use ConnectionFactory and Queue classes from > > JMS > > >> to add the message queues to the embedded server I created with > > >> EmbeddedActiveMQ. Is that at least heading in the right direction? > > >> > > >> Thanks again for your help, > > >> > > >> Michael > > >> > > >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 11:16 AM Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > There's just not enough detail in what you've stated to provide any > > >> > concrete help with your migration. > > >> > > > >> > You said, "...it looks like BrokerService is used throughout the > > >> > application," but you've provided no details about *how* > BrokerService > > >> > is used. Most applications using an embedded broker are pretty > > >> > straightforward when it comes to broker configuration. They > typically > > >> > create a broker instance, configure it with a few endpoints (e.g. > > >> > queues, topics, etc.), configure a couple of other parameters, start > > >> > it, use it, and when the application is done it shuts the broker > down. > > >> > Does your application follow this basic pattern? Does it configure > the > > >> > broker programmatically or does it load configuration files? Does it > > >> > rely on automatic creation of endpoints? > > >> > > > >> > In order to replace BrokerService with EmbeddedActiveMQ we need > > >> > specific details about how BrokerService is being used. > > >> > > > >> > Hope that helps! > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Justin > > >> > > > >> > On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 12:21 PM Michael Brennock < > mbrenn...@gmail.com > > > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > Thanks for the quick reply! > > >> > > > > >> > > For a more specific question, it looks like BrokerService is used > > >> > > throughout the application, as well as the active-mq-initializer > > >> > > bean > > >> > from > > >> > > activeMQ. > > >> > > To clarify, I inherited this project from other developers who are > > >> > > long gone. I started working on this because I briefly worked on a > > >> > > message > > >> > queue > > >> > > system before. > > >> > > > > >> > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2023, 8:41 PM Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > EmbeddedActiveMQ is the class you want to use for embedding > > >> > > > ActiveMQ Artemis. The BrokerService is a class from ActiveMQ > > >> > > > "Classic". It is > > >> > used > > >> > > > in the ActiveMQ Artemis code-base only for testing purposes. You > > >> > > > won't > > >> > > use > > >> > > > it at all when migrating. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > For additional help you'll have to ask more specific questions. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Justin > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 4:45 PM Michael Brennock > > >> > > > <mbrenn...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Good afternoon, > > >> > > > > I've been tasked to migrate an existing application's message > > >> > > > > broker > > >> > > from > > >> > > > > ActiveMQ to Artemis. I was wondering if I could get some help > > >> > > > > troubleshooting my solution? > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > We had some initial success replacing our embedded activeMQ > > >> > > > > broker > > >> > > with a > > >> > > > > standalone broker that runs outside the application and still > > >> > > > > uses > > >> > the > > >> > > > > original message queues defined in activeMQ. I tried to follow > > >> > > > > the information in this guide for creating either an > > >> > > > > EmbeddedActiveMQ or > > >> > a > > >> > > > > BrokerService. Something about the intended design path is > > >> > > > > unclear to > > >> > > me, > > >> > > > > even after reading the manual (1) and scouring the code from > the > > >> > github > > >> > > > > page for answers (2) > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Can anyone offer advice on how to migrate from embedded > ActiveMQ > > >> > > > > to embedded Artemis? I feel like I missed something important > in > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > migration > > >> > > > > documentation > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > (1) > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > https://activemq.apache.org/components/artemis/documentation/latest/em > > >> > bedding-activemq.html > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > (2) > > >> > https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/search?q=brokerService > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> PLEASE NOTE: This e-mail from Redpoint Global Inc. (“Redpoint”) is > > >> confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual(s) > to > > >> whom it is addressed. If you believe you received this e-mail in > error, > > >> please notify the sender immediately, delete the e-mail from your > > computer > > >> and do not copy, print or disclose it to anyone else. 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