Hi Sebgoa. I didn't want to compare XMPP and virtualization. I want to know why using XMPP comes into somebody's Mind?(Archipel Community) They wanted to satisfy which feature that was not and currently is not addressed in cloudstack and/or other CMPs(e.g. OpenStack, OpenNebula, ...)? Which problem they want to solve by the aim of XMPP protocol?
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:44 PM, sebgoa <run...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Jun 3, 2014, at 6:31 PM, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolza...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Is there any idea, about "*XMPP over virtualization*" advantages(Added > > values)? > > > Hossein, that question does not make any sense to me. XMPP is a protocol > for messaging and presence. > You can't compare XMPP and virtualization. > > What the ArchipelProject is looking for? > > No idea, I have never used it, but looks like they use xmpp for virtual > machine monitoring and it seems provisioning. > You asked about XMPP and cloudstack, I googled and found this project > which seems of interest, > > Sebastien, what do you think? > > Check out archipelprojet, head to scholar.google.com , do some research, > read > write some code with xmpp, install ejabberd. > > What I do think is that XMPP is cool and highly scalable, so it can be > used as a communication protocol for distributed systems, especially one > where the agents are transients. > > Have at it ... > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:45 PM, sebgoa <run...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> On Jun 3, 2014, at 1:11 PM, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolza...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Intresting. > >>> Can you explain exactly what new feature the archipelproject is > >>> delivered(By the aim of XMPP) that the current cloudstack can not do? > >>> I want to know the exact role of the XMPP and the added value provided > by > >>> this instance messaging protocol in a virtualization era. > >>> > >> > >> You are the one who asked about this…I don't know. > >> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> You could definitely use xmpp as command and control in your > instances. > >>>> This has been done before : > >>>> > >>>> http://archipelproject.org > >>>> > >>>> You could write xmpp hooks to call the cloudstack api as well > >>>> > >>>> I used to be involved in this project: > >>>> https://github.com/legastero/Kestrel > >>>> > >>>> Which allowed you to run batch processing jobs on pools of VMs using > >> XMPP. > >>>> > >>>> On Jun 1, 2014, at 5:59 AM, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolza...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> @David > >>>>> Thanks. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Nux! <n...@li.nux.ro> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 01.06.2014 10:21, hossein zabolzadeh wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> @David > >>>>>>> AMQP is not instance messaging. Does the cloudstack use AMPQ for > its > >>>>>>> message passing mechanism? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://www.chipchilders.com/blog/2013/7/16/tapping-into- > >>>>>> apache-cloudstack-events-via-amqp.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Nux! > >>>>>> www.nux.ro > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >
