Following the diagrams in this page ArchipelProject/Archipel ArchipelProject/Archipel Archipel - XMPP Based Orchestrator View on github.com Preview by Yahoo
looks like it is an agent-based orchestrator similar to cloudstack or openstack. *stacks primarily use API's to communicate with the hypervisors, but Archipel uses agents with XML-based messaging. If you find out more, please share. Thanks. Amin ________________________________ From: hossein zabolzadeh <zabolza...@gmail.com> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 4:19 PM Subject: Re: XMPP Server on CloudStack Management Server Yes you right. Thank for your aims. I will check with them, and come back to this thread later. On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> wrote: > Those are great questions for their mailing list. > > No one here knows about archipelproject, i just gave you a reference. > > -Sebastien > > > On 3 Jun 2014, at 21:57, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolza...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi Sebgoa. > > I didn't want to compare XMPP and virtualization. I want to know why > using > > XMPP comes into somebody's Mind?(Archipel Community) They wanted to > satisfy > > which feature that was not and currently is not addressed in cloudstack > > and/or other CMPs(e.g. OpenStack, OpenNebula, ...)? > > Which problem they want to solve by the aim of XMPP protocol? > > > > > >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:44 PM, sebgoa <run...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Jun 3, 2014, at 6:31 PM, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolza...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Is there any idea, about "*XMPP over virtualization*" advantages(Added > >>> values)? > >> > >> > >> Hossein, that question does not make any sense to me. XMPP is a protocol > >> for messaging and presence. > >> You can't compare XMPP and virtualization. > > > > > >>> What the ArchipelProject is looking for? > >> > >> No idea, I have never used it, but looks like they use xmpp for virtual > >> machine monitoring and it seems provisioning. > >> You asked about XMPP and cloudstack, I googled and found this project > >> which seems of interest, > > > > > >>> Sebastien, what do you think? > >> > >> Check out archipelprojet, head to scholar.google.com , do some > research, > >> read > >> write some code with xmpp, install ejabberd. > >> > >> What I do think is that XMPP is cool and highly scalable, so it can be > >> used as a communication protocol for distributed systems, especially one > >> where the agents are transients. > >> > >> Have at it ... > >> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:45 PM, sebgoa <run...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jun 3, 2014, at 1:11 PM, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolza...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Intresting. > >>>>> Can you explain exactly what new feature the archipelproject is > >>>>> delivered(By the aim of XMPP) that the current cloudstack can not do? > >>>>> I want to know the exact role of the XMPP and the added value > provided > >> by > >>>>> this instance messaging protocol in a virtualization era. > >>>> > >>>> You are the one who asked about this…I don't know. > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Sebastien Goasguen < > run...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> You could definitely use xmpp as command and control in your > >> instances. > >>>>>> This has been done before : > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://archipelproject.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You could write xmpp hooks to call the cloudstack api as well > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I used to be involved in this project: > >>>>>> https://github.com/legastero/Kestrel > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Which allowed you to run batch processing jobs on pools of VMs using > >>>> XMPP. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Jun 1, 2014, at 5:59 AM, hossein zabolzadeh < > zabolza...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> @David > >>>>>>> Thanks. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Nux! <n...@li.nux.ro> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 01.06.2014 10:21, hossein zabolzadeh wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> @David > >>>>>>>>> AMQP is not instance messaging. Does the cloudstack use AMPQ for > >> its > >>>>>>>>> message passing mechanism? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://www.chipchilders.com/blog/2013/7/16/tapping-into- > >>>>>>>> apache-cloudstack-events-via-amqp.html > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Nux! > >>>>>>>> www.nux.ro > >> > >> >
