I talked with the archipel community members. They use XMPP for event/precense and real time-itivity. So I have another question from you and other cloudstack community members: Is the cloudstack events are real time? or not, it has some delay to be published? If yes, why XMPP becomes matter?
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:49 AM, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolza...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes you right. > Thank for your aims. > I will check with them, and come back to this thread later. > > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Those are great questions for their mailing list. >> >> No one here knows about archipelproject, i just gave you a reference. >> >> -Sebastien >> >> > On 3 Jun 2014, at 21:57, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolza...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Sebgoa. >> > I didn't want to compare XMPP and virtualization. I want to know why >> using >> > XMPP comes into somebody's Mind?(Archipel Community) They wanted to >> satisfy >> > which feature that was not and currently is not addressed in cloudstack >> > and/or other CMPs(e.g. OpenStack, OpenNebula, ...)? >> > Which problem they want to solve by the aim of XMPP protocol? >> > >> > >> >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:44 PM, sebgoa <run...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 3, 2014, at 6:31 PM, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolza...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Is there any idea, about "*XMPP over virtualization*" advantages(Added >> >>> values)? >> >> >> >> >> >> Hossein, that question does not make any sense to me. XMPP is a >> protocol >> >> for messaging and presence. >> >> You can't compare XMPP and virtualization. >> > >> > >> >>> What the ArchipelProject is looking for? >> >> >> >> No idea, I have never used it, but looks like they use xmpp for virtual >> >> machine monitoring and it seems provisioning. >> >> You asked about XMPP and cloudstack, I googled and found this project >> >> which seems of interest, >> > >> > >> >>> Sebastien, what do you think? >> >> >> >> Check out archipelprojet, head to scholar.google.com , do some >> research, >> >> read >> >> write some code with xmpp, install ejabberd. >> >> >> >> What I do think is that XMPP is cool and highly scalable, so it can be >> >> used as a communication protocol for distributed systems, especially >> one >> >> where the agents are transients. >> >> >> >> Have at it ... >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:45 PM, sebgoa <run...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Jun 3, 2014, at 1:11 PM, hossein zabolzadeh <zabolza...@gmail.com >> > >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Intresting. >> >>>>> Can you explain exactly what new feature the archipelproject is >> >>>>> delivered(By the aim of XMPP) that the current cloudstack can not >> do? >> >>>>> I want to know the exact role of the XMPP and the added value >> provided >> >> by >> >>>>> this instance messaging protocol in a virtualization era. >> >>>> >> >>>> You are the one who asked about this…I don't know. >> >>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Sebastien Goasguen < >> run...@gmail.com> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> You could definitely use xmpp as command and control in your >> >> instances. >> >>>>>> This has been done before : >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> http://archipelproject.org >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> You could write xmpp hooks to call the cloudstack api as well >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I used to be involved in this project: >> >>>>>> https://github.com/legastero/Kestrel >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Which allowed you to run batch processing jobs on pools of VMs >> using >> >>>> XMPP. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Jun 1, 2014, at 5:59 AM, hossein zabolzadeh < >> zabolza...@gmail.com> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> @David >> >>>>>>> Thanks. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Nux! <n...@li.nux.ro> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On 01.06.2014 10:21, hossein zabolzadeh wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> @David >> >>>>>>>>> AMQP is not instance messaging. Does the cloudstack use AMPQ for >> >> its >> >>>>>>>>> message passing mechanism? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> http://www.chipchilders.com/blog/2013/7/16/tapping-into- >> >>>>>>>> apache-cloudstack-events-via-amqp.html >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Nux! >> >>>>>>>> www.nux.ro >> >> >> >> >> > >
