I understand Alejandro's point of view, and agree with him. He's not saying that IRC is no good. What he's saying is that IRC is not the solution to the problem I mentioned, since there's no record of that... It's a solution for that right moment, and for someone who's there. But won't allow a new guy looking for some solution to search for an already discussed one and see it.
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Michael Sole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Alejandro, > > > > I disagree I think IRC is a great solution so long as people are there to > help. > > > > As for answering the same question over and over again. Yeah that can be > tiresome but entirely important in an open source community. > > > > The fact is that not everyone searches the same way and sometimes what is > obvious to one is not so obvious to another. > > > > Michael > > > > > From: Alejandro Guerrieri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:53 PM > To: users@kannel.org > Subject: UNS: Re: Proposal: Kannel Wiki > > > > IRC's not good for helping moderate-size communities imho. > > * It requires both parts to be available at the same time to be able to > help. > * Conversations are rarely stored and searchable. That's the whole point of > a wiki: to have things in written once and forever. > * It doesn't scale well when there's a lot of people talking. > > It has even more problems than a mailing list. People ask the "wap-push > question" even with tons of threads archived by gmane, mail-archive and > similar services. How many times are you willing to answer it? ;) > > I think the wiki could be a good idea, but extending the users guide or a > faq addressing some of the most commonly asked questions would do the trick > also. > > Regards, > > Alejandro > > > On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Khary Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > An even better idea is people should hangout in > irc://irc.freenode.net/kannel , that way help can be provided near > realtime. > > Just in case we have some irc newbies read here - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC > > k# > > > > > Khary Sharpe wrote: > > Maybe I missed something ......but doesn't http://wiki.kannel.org > > already exist? > > There is nothing much there at the moment, especially where repeat > > questions are concerned.... but we can change that. > > > > All those who are interested can simply register and start adding > > pages. (hopefully the approval is automated) > > > > k# > > > > > > > > > > > > Juan Nin wrote: > >> here u got: > >> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mobile.kannel.user/11009 > >> > >> you may have problems with linefeeds by copying the code from the > >> webpage, at the end of January or beggining of February someone sent > >> my code as an attached PHP file > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Juan > >> > >> On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Clarence Carino > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> i am one of the guys asking for a wap push how-to. > >>> yeah. having a wiki would greatly help. and some examples too > >>> because i'm > >>> searching users@kannel.org through nabble and all i can see it go > >>> to this > >>> and go to that, use this, use that without explaining. and before i > >>> post > >>> my help, i already searched 250++ of this mailing list. i did ran > >>> kannel > >>> by reading the kannel docs and some help from mail-archive.com. but > >>> its > >>> really confusing on wap push.(i'll stop here coz its off topic) > >>> > >>> some were just replying as if the user will understand > >>> immediately.. but > >>> how about some who are just very newbie on the mobile industry? > >>> > >>> anyway. i hope this wiki will be full detailed if it will push through > >>> > >>> thanks > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, Mar 8, 2008, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>> > >>> > Good idea. > >>> > > >>> > Just look at the success and plethora of info on > >>> http://www.voip-info.org/ > >>> > - a wiki for ALL voip. > >>> > > >>> > /g > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Juan Nin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> There are many things that are asked and asked and asked all the > >>> time > >>> >> on the list, and it's quite annoying... > >>> >> > >>> >> I think the bigger example is "how to send a Wap Push" > >>> >> > >>> >> Wouldn't it be a good idea, to setup a Kannel Wiki, where people > >>> can > >>> >> post articles and how to do this, and how to do that, example > >>> confs, > >>> >> etc? > >>> >> This way people can first check on the Wiki and find lots of useful > >>> >> info there... > >>> >> > >>> >> and if someone does not check the Wiki and asks again, it will > >>> just be > >>> >> replying "Check it at http://wiki.kannel.org"; > >>> >> > >>> >> What do you think? > >>> >> > >>> >> Juan > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Alejandro Guerrieri > Magicom > http://www.magicom-bcn.net/ > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/aguerrieri
