I understand Alejandro's point of view, and agree with him.
He's not saying that IRC is no good.
What he's saying is that IRC is not the solution to the problem I
mentioned, since there's no record of that...
It's a solution for that right moment, and for someone who's there.
But won't allow a new guy looking for some solution to search for an
already discussed one and see it.
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Michael Sole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Alejandro,
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> I disagree I think IRC is a great solution so long as people are there to
> help.
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> As for answering the same question over and over again. Yeah that can be
> tiresome but entirely important in an open source community.
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> The fact is that not everyone searches the same way and sometimes what is
> obvious to one is not so obvious to another.
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> Michael
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> From: Alejandro Guerrieri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:53 PM
> To: users@kannel.org
> Subject: UNS: Re: Proposal: Kannel Wiki
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> IRC's not good for helping moderate-size communities imho.
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> * It requires both parts to be available at the same time to be able to
> help.
> * Conversations are rarely stored and searchable. That's the whole point of
> a wiki: to have things in written once and forever.
> * It doesn't scale well when there's a lot of people talking.
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> It has even more problems than a mailing list. People ask the "wap-push
> question" even with tons of threads archived by gmane, mail-archive and
> similar services. How many times are you willing to answer it? ;)
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> I think the wiki could be a good idea, but extending the users guide or a
> faq addressing some of the most commonly asked questions would do the trick
> also.
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> Regards,
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> Alejandro
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> On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Khary Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> An even better idea is people should hangout in
> irc://irc.freenode.net/kannel , that way help can be provided near
> realtime.
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> Just in case we have some irc newbies read here -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC
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> k#
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> Khary Sharpe wrote:
> > Maybe I missed something ......but doesn't http://wiki.kannel.org
> > already exist?
> > There is nothing much there at the moment, especially where repeat
> > questions are concerned.... but we can change that.
> >
> > All those who are interested can simply register and start adding
> > pages. (hopefully the approval is automated)
> >
> > k#
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> >
> > Juan Nin wrote:
> >> here u got:
> >> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mobile.kannel.user/11009
> >>
> >> you may have problems with linefeeds by copying the code from the
> >> webpage, at the end of January or beggining of February someone sent
> >> my code as an attached PHP file
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Juan
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Clarence Carino
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >>> i am one of the guys asking for a wap push how-to.
> >>> yeah. having a wiki would greatly help. and some examples too
> >>> because i'm
> >>> searching users@kannel.org through nabble and all i can see it go
> >>> to this
> >>> and go to that, use this, use that without explaining. and before i
> >>> post
> >>> my help, i already searched 250++ of this mailing list. i did ran
> >>> kannel
> >>> by reading the kannel docs and some help from mail-archive.com. but
> >>> its
> >>> really confusing on wap push.(i'll stop here coz its off topic)
> >>>
> >>> some were just replying as if the user will understand
> >>> immediately.. but
> >>> how about some who are just very newbie on the mobile industry?
> >>>
> >>> anyway. i hope this wiki will be full detailed if it will push through
> >>>
> >>> thanks
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> On Sat, Mar 8, 2008, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >>>
> >>> > Good idea.
> >>> >
> >>> > Just look at the success and plethora of info on
> >>> http://www.voip-info.org/
> >>> > - a wiki for ALL voip.
> >>> >
> >>> > /g
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Juan Nin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> There are many things that are asked and asked and asked all the
> >>> time
> >>> >> on the list, and it's quite annoying...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I think the bigger example is "how to send a Wap Push"
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Wouldn't it be a good idea, to setup a Kannel Wiki, where people
> >>> can
> >>> >> post articles and how to do this, and how to do that, example
> >>> confs,
> >>> >> etc?
> >>> >> This way people can first check on the Wiki and find lots of useful
> >>> >> info there...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> and if someone does not check the Wiki and asks again, it will
> >>> just be
> >>> >> replying "Check it at http://wiki.kannel.org";
> >>> >>
> >>> >> What do you think?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Juan
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >
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> >>> --
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> --
> Alejandro Guerrieri
> Magicom
> http://www.magicom-bcn.net/
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/aguerrieri
