how bout wiki + irc? we can put logs on wiki?
e.g. an irc session on how to install kannel. after the session has finished, they will make a small documentation inside that documentation is the mirc log. it doesnt have to be the whole log. maybe a summarization of that support. then they will attach the log into the wiki under e.g. example Installing Kannel->References. or there's always Gforge AS. or any collaboration software thanks On Sun, Mar 9, 2008, oscar cassetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Although I think that you can record the irc sessions, I believe that > a better documentation and Wiki would be better. > > > Oscar > > On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Juan Nin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I understand Alejandro's point of view, and agree with him. >> >> He's not saying that IRC is no good. >> What he's saying is that IRC is not the solution to the problem I >> mentioned, since there's no record of that... >> It's a solution for that right moment, and for someone who's there. >> But won't allow a new guy looking for some solution to search for an >> already discussed one and see it. >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Michael Sole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Alejandro, >> > >> > >> > >> > I disagree I think IRC is a great solution so long as people are there to >> > help. >> > >> > >> > >> > As for answering the same question over and over again. Yeah that can be >> > tiresome but entirely important in an open source community. >> > >> > >> > >> > The fact is that not everyone searches the same way and sometimes what is >> > obvious to one is not so obvious to another. >> > >> > >> > >> > Michael >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Alejandro Guerrieri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:53 PM >> > To: users@kannel.org >> > Subject: UNS: Re: Proposal: Kannel Wiki >> > >> > >> > >> > IRC's not good for helping moderate-size communities imho. >> > >> > * It requires both parts to be available at the same time to be able to >> > help. >> > * Conversations are rarely stored and searchable. That's the whole point >> of >> > a wiki: to have things in written once and forever. >> > * It doesn't scale well when there's a lot of people talking. >> > >> > It has even more problems than a mailing list. People ask the "wap-push >> > question" even with tons of threads archived by gmane, mail-archive and >> > similar services. How many times are you willing to answer it? ;) >> > >> > I think the wiki could be a good idea, but extending the users guide or a >> > faq addressing some of the most commonly asked questions would do the >> trick >> > also. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Alejandro >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Khary Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > An even better idea is people should hangout in >> > irc://irc.freenode.net/kannel , that way help can be provided near >> > realtime. >> > >> > Just in case we have some irc newbies read here - >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC >> > >> > k# >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Khary Sharpe wrote: >> > > Maybe I missed something ......but doesn't http://wiki.kannel.org >> > > already exist? >> > > There is nothing much there at the moment, especially where repeat >> > > questions are concerned.... but we can change that. >> > > >> > > All those who are interested can simply register and start adding >> > > pages. (hopefully the approval is automated) >> > > >> > > k# >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Juan Nin wrote: >> > >> here u got: >> > >> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mobile.kannel.user/11009 >> > >> >> > >> you may have problems with linefeeds by copying the code from the >> > >> webpage, at the end of January or beggining of February someone sent >> > >> my code as an attached PHP file >> > >> >> > >> Regards, >> > >> >> > >> Juan >> > >> >> > >> On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Clarence Carino >> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> i am one of the guys asking for a wap push how-to. >> > >>> yeah. having a wiki would greatly help. and some examples too >> > >>> because i'm >> > >>> searching users@kannel.org through nabble and all i can see it go >> > >>> to this >> > >>> and go to that, use this, use that without explaining. and before i >> > >>> post >> > >>> my help, i already searched 250++ of this mailing list. i did ran >> > >>> kannel >> > >>> by reading the kannel docs and some help from mail-archive.com. but >> > >>> its >> > >>> really confusing on wap push.(i'll stop here coz its off topic) >> > >>> >> > >>> some were just replying as if the user will understand >> > >>> immediately.. but >> > >>> how about some who are just very newbie on the mobile industry? >> > >>> >> > >>> anyway. i hope this wiki will be full detailed if it will push >> through >> > >>> >> > >>> thanks >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> On Sat, Mar 8, 2008, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > >>> >> > >>> > Good idea. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Just look at the success and plethora of info on >> > >>> http://www.voip-info.org/ >> > >>> > - a wiki for ALL voip. >> > >>> > >> > >>> > /g >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Juan Nin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> There are many things that are asked and asked and asked all the >> > >>> time >> > >>> >> on the list, and it's quite annoying... >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> I think the bigger example is "how to send a Wap Push" >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> Wouldn't it be a good idea, to setup a Kannel Wiki, where people >> > >>> can >> > >>> >> post articles and how to do this, and how to do that, example >> > >>> confs, >> > >>> >> etc? >> > >>> >> This way people can first check on the Wiki and find lots of >> useful >> > >>> >> info there... >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> and if someone does not check the Wiki and asks again, it will >> > >>> just be >> > >>> >> replying "Check it at http://wiki.kannel.org"; >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> What do you think? >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> Juan >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> > >>> -- >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Alejandro Guerrieri >> > Magicom >> > http://www.magicom-bcn.net/ >> > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/aguerrieri >> >> > > --
