Although I think that you can record the irc sessions, I believe that
a  better documentation and Wiki would be better.


Oscar

On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 12:02 AM, Juan Nin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I understand Alejandro's point of view, and agree with him.
>
>  He's not saying that IRC is no good.
>  What he's saying is that IRC is not the solution to the problem I
>  mentioned, since there's no record of that...
>  It's a solution for that right moment, and for someone who's there.
>  But won't allow a new guy looking for some solution to search for an
>  already discussed one and see it.
>
>
>  On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Michael Sole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Alejandro,
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > I disagree I think IRC is a great solution so long as people are there to
>  > help.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > As for answering the same question over and over again. Yeah that can be
>  > tiresome but entirely important in an open source community.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > The fact is that not everyone searches the same way and sometimes what is
>  > obvious to one is not so obvious to another.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Michael
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > From: Alejandro Guerrieri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >  Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:53 PM
>  >  To: users@kannel.org
>  >  Subject: UNS: Re: Proposal: Kannel Wiki
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > IRC's not good for helping moderate-size communities imho.
>  >
>  >  * It requires both parts to be available at the same time to be able to
>  > help.
>  >  * Conversations are rarely stored and searchable. That's the whole point 
> of
>  > a wiki: to have things in written once and forever.
>  >  * It doesn't scale well when there's a lot of people talking.
>  >
>  >  It has even more problems than a mailing list. People ask the "wap-push
>  > question" even with tons of threads archived by gmane, mail-archive and
>  > similar services. How many times are you willing to answer it? ;)
>  >
>  >  I think the wiki could be a good idea, but extending the users guide or a
>  > faq addressing some of the most commonly asked questions would do the trick
>  > also.
>  >
>  >  Regards,
>  >
>  >  Alejandro
>  >
>  >
>  > On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Khary Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > An even better idea is people should hangout in
>  >  irc://irc.freenode.net/kannel , that way help can be provided near
>  > realtime.
>  >
>  >  Just in case we have some irc newbies read here -
>  >  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC
>  >
>  >  k#
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  Khary Sharpe wrote:
>  >  > Maybe I  missed something ......but doesn't http://wiki.kannel.org
>  >  > already exist?
>  >  > There is nothing much there at the moment, especially where repeat
>  >  > questions are concerned.... but we can change that.
>  >  >
>  >  > All those who are interested can simply register and start adding
>  >  > pages. (hopefully the approval is automated)
>  >  >
>  >  > k#
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > Juan Nin wrote:
>  >  >> here u got:
>  >  >> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mobile.kannel.user/11009
>  >  >>
>  >  >> you may have problems with linefeeds by copying the code from the
>  >  >> webpage, at the end of January or beggining of February someone sent
>  >  >> my code as an attached PHP file
>  >  >>
>  >  >> Regards,
>  >  >>
>  >  >> Juan
>  >  >>
>  >  >> On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Clarence Carino
>  >  >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  >>
>  >  >>> i am one of the guys asking for a wap push how-to.
>  >  >>>  yeah. having a wiki would greatly help. and some examples too
>  >  >>> because i'm
>  >  >>>  searching users@kannel.org through nabble and all i can see it go
>  >  >>> to this
>  >  >>>  and go to that, use this, use that without explaining. and before i
>  >  >>> post
>  >  >>>  my help, i already searched 250++ of this mailing list. i did ran
>  >  >>> kannel
>  >  >>>  by reading the kannel docs and some help from mail-archive.com. but
>  >  >>> its
>  >  >>>  really confusing on wap push.(i'll stop here coz its off topic)
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>>  some were just replying as if the user will understand
>  >  >>> immediately.. but
>  >  >>>  how about some who are just very newbie on the mobile industry?
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>>  anyway. i hope this wiki will be full detailed if it will push 
> through
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>>  thanks
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>>  On Sat, Mar 8, 2008, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>>  > Good idea.
>  >  >>>  >
>  >  >>>  > Just look at the success and plethora of info on
>  >  >>> http://www.voip-info.org/
>  >  >>>  > - a wiki for ALL voip.
>  >  >>>  >
>  >  >>>  > /g
>  >  >>>  >
>  >  >>>  >
>  >  >>>  > On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Juan Nin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>  >  >>>  >
>  >  >>>  >> There are many things that are asked and asked and asked all the
>  >  >>> time
>  >  >>>  >> on the list, and it's quite annoying...
>  >  >>>  >>
>  >  >>>  >> I think the bigger example is "how to send a Wap Push"
>  >  >>>  >>
>  >  >>>  >> Wouldn't it be a good idea, to setup a Kannel Wiki, where people
>  >  >>> can
>  >  >>>  >> post articles and how to do this, and how to do that, example
>  >  >>> confs,
>  >  >>>  >> etc?
>  >  >>>  >> This way people can first check on the Wiki and find lots of 
> useful
>  >  >>>  >> info there...
>  >  >>>  >>
>  >  >>>  >> and if someone does not check the Wiki and asks again, it will
>  >  >>> just be
>  >  >>>  >> replying "Check it at http://wiki.kannel.org";
>  >  >>>  >>
>  >  >>>  >> What do you think?
>  >  >>>  >>
>  >  >>>  >> Juan
>  >  >>>  >>
>  >  >>>  >>
>  >  >>>  >
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>>  --
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  --
>  >  Alejandro Guerrieri
>  >  Magicom
>  >  http://www.magicom-bcn.net/
>  >  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/aguerrieri
>
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