Oh, and provide some support for it other than 'we want it like this'.
(btw Brill, I think you have a good argument, but given the trivial
workaround....)

Featuritis is the bane of most software.

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:57:47 -0500, Ryan Sonnek
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> whoo now, i don't want to get involved, but i do want to let it be known that since 
> this is an open source project, nothing is stopping you from adding the feature 
> you're asking for.
> * download the source from cvs
> * make the change you're requesting
> * submit the change as a patch to JIRA.
> * hope that a commiter will take the patch and apply it to the codebase!  =)
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brill Pappin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:41 PM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: RFE for the war plugin
> >
> >
> >
> > Michal Maczka wrote:
> >
> > >On Tue, 2004-06-29 at 18:00, Brill Pappin wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I thought I had explained this?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >You did not.
> > >
> > >[...]
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Actually yes I did, working backwards in time and no
> > including the one
> > quoted here:
> >
> > On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:53:47 -0400:
> > "The reason I specifically want to do it, is so I can use the
> > manifest
> > to package extended information about the classes. I think I
> > said that
> > though..."
> >
> > At Monday, June 28, 2004 2:21 PM
> > "Doing this allows me to use the manifest versioning, labeling and
> > dependency parts of the manifest."
> >
> > I think there might even be a few others I missed.
> >
> > >>If you want to know more about what I'm doing (and why I'm
> > asking for
> > >>this), you can get a very good idea at this site:
> > >>http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/versioning/index.html
> > >>
> > >>Specifically take a look at the "Package Versioning
> > Specification" which
> > >>is link to the URL above, or at this URL:
> > >>http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/guide/versioning/spec/ve
> rsioningTOC.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >Are you aware of the fact that servlet specification clearly defines the
> >location in the war archive where manifest files should go?
> >
> >
> [...]
> 
> >IMO there is absolutely no difference and servlet spec _recommends_ the
> >first option!
> >
> >So this reason is not really a valid one and there is no any other valid
> >reason why this should be done. At least I am not going to do this.
> >
> >
> >
> Have you tried to do it with the war?
> Did you even read that spec? Obviously not.
> The classloader loads the jar and the respective versioning information
> not the webapp container that loads the war!
> Remember that in this day and age all list mail gets archived so what
> you just said above will be preserved forever.
> 
> Michal, you are leading me to believe that you are the originator for
> this plugin. If that is the case I am hearing some very  negative
> feedback from a member of this project which boils down to "I'm to lazy
> and can't be bothered".
> 
> Not only to lazy to do the work, which would be at your discretion, but
> to lazy to even bother looking into what I'm asking for and giving
> reasonable and coherent reasons for not doing it.
> 
> I don't think you *must* add this feature because *I* ask for it, but
> you owe all of us the courtesy of looking into the request (which you
> very clearly have not done).
> 
> This is exactly the kind of negative attitude that is turning people off
> of Maven and I find it very disappointing.
> 
> - Brill Pappin
> 
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