Several sentences sounds good. But here’s another question. Comparing Maven to ant is almost too easy in terms of advantages. Is gradle now a serious competitor (I had been working on converting an enormous project to maven, but the architect decided to switch to gradle, so I am particularly sensitive to the issue). I can see some superficial advantages of gradle that might appeal to some projects. Is it better to ignore or address this?
On Jan 6, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, 6 January 2014, Ron Wheeler wrote: > >> I think that the target has to be people deciding whether to try Maven. >> They initially want to know what it does and why it is better than Ant or >> whatever they are using now. >> >> Trying to teach Maven in a single sentence is too much to ask. >> >> "Maven is a build tool which consumes and produces artifacts managed in a >> repository." doesn't sound like it will help build my application. >> At the start, one doesn't have any artifacts or own a repository. >> >> "Apache Maven is a convention-over-configuration build tool which has >> great dependency management features." > > > I think we should hint at the descriptive philosophy rather than the > procedural philosophy most tools take > > >> is pretty clear for a single sentence description and it true. >> Maybe we can come up with a follow-up sentence to amplify/explain this one. >> Most programmers or project managers should be able to find the time to >> read 2 or maybe 3 sentences before deciding on a build tool. >> As long as each sentence draws the person deeper into Maven, that would >> work. > > > Yes that is the idea > > >> >> Ron >> >> >> On 06/01/2014 12:57 PM, Russell Gold wrote: >> >>> Of course, you could say that about Gradle, too. And ant now does have >>> the ability to use those dependency features. >>> >>> I went through this when creating my video course (not in the sig because >>> this is work email). It’s not clear to me that you can make a one sentence >>> description that will provide sufficiently useful information unless >>> something like: >>> >>> "Maven is a build tool which consumes and produces artifacts managed in a >>> repository." >>> >>> But that is not going to help people coming new to the project. >>> >>> I think I am missing the motivation here.Is the target for this >>> description people deciding whether to try Maven? People trying to learn >>> how to use it? >>> >>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:43 PM, Lyons, Roy <roy.ly...@cmegroup.com> wrote: >>> >>> on https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/New+Main+Site it >>>> says: >>>> >>>> We need a short and snappy description of what Maven is: >>>> >>>> "Apache Maven is a software project management and comprehension tool." >>>> >>>> Is just not an easy to understand description of what Maven is. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I would like to submit my short description for review. >>>> >>>> "Apache Maven is a convention-over-configuration build tool which has >>>> great dependency management features." >>>> >>>> I know that it does more than that - but I feel that at its core, this >>>> is what it really is. >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Ron Wheeler >> President >> Artifact Software Inc >> email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com >> skype: ronaldmwheeler >> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org >> >> > > -- > Sent from my phone --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org
