Thanks Sven, that is very interesting.  I will check it out!

Josh Juneau
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866


> On Aug 16, 2018, at 1:18 PM, Sven Reimers <sven.reim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> there is a project out there called eFX...
> 
> It is a simple proof of concept of reuding NetBeans core functionality (aka 
> not swing dependent) and adding a JavaFX frontend..
> 
> This is focussing on WindowSystem ideas etc. and less on IDE features(aka 
> editor).
> 
> There is one example application based on eFX - vmFX, a kind of VisualVM 
> clone..
> 
> The two people working on this are dusting off the code... because there will 
> be a Oracle Code One talk around the idea of a JavaFX Application Platform...
> 
> Hope this is interesting 
> 
> Regards 
> 
> -Sven
> 
> Miroslav Nachev <mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com> schrieb am Do., 16. Aug. 
> 2018, 18:00:
>> Great,
>> The beginning of the team was set up. We're two now.
>> 
>> 
>> Miro :)
>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Josh Juneau <juneau...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yes indeed, I agree that it will be a lot of work and it will take talented 
>>> engineers.  Makes sense to at least look at it from a high level first to 
>>> see if certain parts of the UI could be re-written in JavaFX...done in 
>>> phases.  I'd be willing to help out, but I cannot realistically offer a ton 
>>> of my time so it would definitely take a committment from a number of 
>>> community members before taking any steps forward with this initiative.
>>> 
>>> The main focus right now is drop two...I'm going to try and help where I 
>>> can with that for now, and I think we all should do what we can.  This is 
>>> certainly a good idea for a future project though if enough people are 
>>> willing to pitch in.  
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 7:34 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
>>>> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Miroslav Nachev 
>>>>> <mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I agree with Geertjan Wielenga's assessment of the work and the deadline. 
>>>>> I would add, that if you go in this direction
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Wait a minute. :-) You're the one who started this thread, so if anyone is 
>>>> going to "go in this direction", that person is you, Miroslav Nachev. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Gj
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>> it is good to think about updating the architecture and especially on the 
>>>>> Plugin system. It should be made easier and more functional in keeping 
>>>>> with new trends. For example, there is JVM and one Main Module (Service), 
>>>>> that runs all the other modules of Java (JDK), NetBeans, etc. This 
>>>>> architecture can be used for many kind of applications, not only for 
>>>>> NetBeans.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 3:19 PM, Geertjan Wielenga 
>>>>>> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Aside from the licensing concerns, I think we need to set some 
>>>>>> expectations here. I.e., rewriting the NetBeans user interface from 
>>>>>> Swing to JavaFX is a LOT of work. And it has to be done really well and 
>>>>>> be really performant and require a group of very highly skilled JavaFX 
>>>>>> developers. I would estimate that the work involved, depending on how 
>>>>>> many and who would do it, would take at least 6 months, though that's a 
>>>>>> rough estimate. It's probably one of the most complex tasks that I can 
>>>>>> think of in relation to Apache NetBeans.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, it would be great for this to be done, but let's not be naive about 
>>>>>> the amount of work, skills, and energy required.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:15 PM, Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2018, 12:51 Josh Juneau, <juneau...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> It would be nice to have a JavaFX GUI for NetBeans, specifically if 
>>>>>>>> something like Gluon Mobile were used
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For that to happen *here* would require a shift in Apache policies 
>>>>>>> towards GPL w/CPE licensed dependencies as far as I know. Of course, 
>>>>>>> ongoing modularization of the JDK and changes in deployment strategies 
>>>>>>> might provoke a change. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best wishes, 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Josh Juneau
>>> juneau...@gmail.com
>>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
>>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>>> 
>> 

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