I think you are reading other people's take on things. Clearer language was an added bonus but never the reason. The reason was to remove racially charged language and 4.0 was a good opportunity to do it since the major bump would allow for disruption. Further, this article was what reminded me to bring it up: https://www.zdnet.com/article/uk-ncsc-to-stop-using-whitelist-and-blacklist-due-to-racial-stereotyping/
Regards, KAM -- Kevin A. McGrail Member, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 8:23 AM Dave Goodrich <dgoodr...@greenfieldin.org> wrote: > The wrong side of history? Are you kidding me? > > I have been a long time user of Apache products. SA has been my go to > solution for decades. Until this morning, I was without opinion on this > issue and I even understood, and agreed, that the change had merit for > clarity. But, 'go along or be on the wrong side of history' (sic) tells me > this is not about a more clear and understandable naming convention. This > is posturing and pandering. > > I am disappointed greatly. Very disappointed. > > DAve > > ----- On Jul 14, 2020, at 5:03 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org> > wrote: > > Marc and others about voting, > > The ASF is a meritocracy not a democracy. Voting privileges are earned by > demonstrating merit on a project. That is the project management committee > aka the PMC. Discussion with the PMC on this change started in early April > with a vote in early May by the PMC. > > To Marc, your Ad hominem attacks are not needed and I will ignore messages > that use them. > > To you and others spouting off, be reminded that this is a publicly > archived mailing list and you will be on the wrong side of history. > Consider that when you post. > > Regards, KAM > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 03:51 Marc Roos <m.r...@f1-outsourcing.eu> wrote: > >> >> > I never said it was being done for engineering reasons. The change is >> >> > being done to remove racially-charged language from Apache >> > SpamAssassin. As an open source project, we are part of a movement >> > built on a foundation of inclusion that has changed how computing is >> > done. The engineering concerns are outweighed by the social benefits >> > and your huffing is not going to stop it. >> > >> >> If you are referencing opensource and community. Why is this group not >> voting on this? Why is only a small group deciding what is being done? >> Such a vote, hardly can classify as open source, community nor >> democratic. >> > >
