McDonald, Dan a écrit :
> On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 23:49 +0200, mouss wrote:
>> Matus UHLAR - fantomas a écrit :
>>> Even if that record would be listed in SPF?
>>>
>> SPF again? any spammer can buy a domain and add arbitrary IPs to the SPF
>> record. you know about fast flux, right?
> 
> You are thinking of SPF at the wrong layer.  

No, I am not. I was saying that the fact that one sets up SPF record
doesn't mean he can use generic hostnames. maybe I was too "concise".

> It is a "non-repudiation"
> tool.  When I create an SPF record, I am asserting that anything that
> matches that policy is my responsibility. 

Unfortunately, this is not the general case. or more precisely, people
claim responsibility too easily.

yes, I do use SPF "statically" (static whitelisting of IPs after I
checked their infos, or via whitelist_from_* in SA).

> Whether you might want to
> whitelist (or blacklist!) anything matching that policy is a function of
> my perceived reputation to you.
> 
> But at least it gives me a clue.  There is no reason to send a DSN in
> response to a message that fails SPF.  And there is no reason to accept
> a message on a whitelist if it fails SPF.
> 
> 

I don't check SPF at smtp time. so it is theoritically possible that I
return a bounce (disk full or so) but this shouldn't happen. and if it
does, it will be fixed, without regard to SPF. the rationale is:
- "bad" bounces shouldn't be sent even if the domain has no SPF record
- if things are done "right", bad bounces should rarely occur.

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