The _idea_ of CPanel is a good one: a low-cost, do-it-all solution which a 
broader range of tech-savvy users can manage. It seems that the current 
GoDaddy/CPanel configuration I’m using is obviously not up to the task of 
distinguishing SPAM in today’s world.

If there is not an easy fix within their black box, I’ll consider hosting my 
own email on OS X Server: full apache, full SA.

> On Oct 13, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote:
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> Am 13.10.2015 um 21:02 schrieb Larry Goldman:
>> I’ve seen CPanel hosted on several other ISPs. It would be quite unfortunate 
>> (for them and for their users) if their email product could not reliably 
>> catch spam.
> 
> and i have seen so much shit from ISP's long ago that i started in 2005 to 
> host and implement anything we need on own infrastrcuture with own 
> deployments and finally even replaced a spamfilter-applicance from a 
> million-dollar-company specialized for spamfiltering with own solutions
> 
> they all sell SpamAssassin and other free components wrapped in layers over 
> layers (cPanel is one of the definite crap in that layers) and finally sell 
> shit for money
> 
> do it yourself or live with the results
> 
> what you can't expect is serious help on upstream mailing lists fro SA 
> burried inside a dozen of crap layers likely nobody on that planet knows how 
> thinhgs are realy configured
> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote:
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>>> Am 13.10.2015 um 20:40 schrieb Larry Goldman:
>>>> It seems that CPanel is an independent product that GoDaddy serves. It
>>>> may be that the version of CPanel in use is not using up-to-date SA,
>>>> which is a problem.
>>>> 
>>>> How can I determine which version of SA is being used, without terminal
>>>> access?
>>> 
>>> you can't, you have only a limited blackbox and get what you pay for - 
>>> sorry - invest time and money or live with what you get
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