Sorry to hear about the Teams / Sharepoint migration, that seems to be occurring industry wide. “Its moving to the cloud so it has to be better”. It also amazes me how much money and labor large companies are throwing at Git to have it scale to scenarios that it was never envisioned to support but every company has to be on Git because “thats what the developers want”. Every company that I have worked for that has used Git has always had a centralized Git repository just like SVN. From the SVN community’s perspective, I am curious to see their perspective on why the industry transitioned away from SVN to Git?
It is nice to look at the repository itself and see continued commits. Are most of these by community members or are some large companies still contributing back? Luke > On Oct 29, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Stuempfig, Thomas > <thomas.stuemp...@siemens.com> wrote: > > Hi Luke, > the repository has been migrated with the Migration from Skype to Teams / > Sharepoint. (In my view, the worst case scenario) > we lost history of projects and we lost the search capabilities. But we were > forced… > > I was quite fine with the “slow” evolution of svn, and the flexibility > between client and server versions. So migrations were very smooth. > Even with kind of “simple SVN” versus fancy Document Management Tools or git, > our end users had exactly what they needed. A tool that reliably worked. > I would do the same today if I were asked. > > Looking into the subersion apache repository (source code) one can see that > There is continued commiting to the source code. I would not say that this is > a dead project, in contrary. > > From: Luke Mauldin <lukemaul...@icloud.com> > Sent: Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 2021 15:26 > To: Stuempfig, Thomas (DI SW GS&CS EU DACH AUTO PRBD EC) > <thomas.stuemp...@siemens.com> > Cc: Justin MASSIOT | Zentek <justin.mass...@zentek.fr>; Nico Kadel-Garcia > <nka...@gmail.com>; Subversion <users@subversion.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Current project status > > Is the SVN repository still in use or was it transitioned to something else? > The primary users of this SVN repo will be engineers who are not software > developers so I think the less complex nature of SVN compared to Git could be > a definite advantage. However, I am concerned about the long-term viability > of the SVN project because I would like the repo to still be usable by in 5-8 > years. Just looking at the development mailing lists, it looks like almost > all development has stopped on Subversion which is concerning to me. > > Luke > > > On Oct 28, 2021, at 8:14 AM, Stuempfig, Thomas <thomas.stuemp...@siemens.com > <mailto:thomas.stuemp...@siemens.com>> wrote: > > Hi all, > we had a SVN Repository that served a huge number of PPT Presentations, CAD > Data (MCAD/ECAD), Word. > the repository served over 10 Years of history of ~200 users. > In addition to this, we created useful Web Search Capabilities for PPTs in > the repository on our own based on office and svn api. > (We were able to search for single slides of presentations) > > We even thought of redmine integration in order to track Document Changes > against a Tasks… > > TortoiseSVN was easy enough for the average user and the checked out copy was > really great for us as we travelled a lot during the week. > Check-In and Updates from colleges were done when we had network access. > > The maintenance effort of this Project was really minimal and the effort for > errors / misuse was virtually inexistent. > > > Regards > Thomas > > From: Justin MASSIOT | Zentek <justin.mass...@zentek.fr > <mailto:justin.mass...@zentek.fr>> > Sent: Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 2021 09:47 > To: Luke Mauldin <lukemaul...@icloud.com <mailto:lukemaul...@icloud.com>> > Cc: Nico Kadel-Garcia <nka...@gmail.com <mailto:nka...@gmail.com>>; > Subversion <users@subversion.apache.org <mailto:users@subversion.apache.org>> > Subject: Re: Current project status > > Luke, > > If the 3D models are "source" files, then I personally approve to put those > files into a Subversion repo. That's what I do everyday with Electronic > engineering CAD files. > By the way, don't forget you may not be able to "diff" between two versions > of a file. If not, you lose one the main strength of a Version control > system: doing even a small rollback may become a pain... Plus if you can't > diff, you probably can't merge either! I encourage you to use locks to avoid > any form of conflicts. The "needs-lock" property can be useful. > > As for the project status, I don't know anything but I would be curious to > get the developers' point of view. > > Justin MASSIOT | Zentek > > > On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 00:47, Luke Mauldin <lukemaul...@icloud.com > <mailto:lukemaul...@icloud.com>> wrote: > Let me clarify. The binaries can be unity 3d models or other engineering > assets. They are not compiled code. > > > On Oct 27, 2021, at 5:42 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia <nka...@gmail.com > > <mailto:nka...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 6:31 PM Luke Mauldin <lukemaul...@icloud.com > > <mailto:lukemaul...@icloud.com>> wrote: > >> > >> We are considering using Subversion for a project with large binary files > >> since it seems to have some strengths in that area compared to the > >> alternatives. But now that the Apache Software Foundation and most other > >> projects such LLVM and FreeBSD have migrated away from Subversion, what > >> does the future of Subversion look like? Is it still being actively worked > >> on? Is anyone sponsoring it? > > > > For me, subversion still has uses by compelling centralized change > > tracking, and by permitting checkouts of very small directories from a > > master repo or a designated tag. > > > > Large binaries..... just don't put those in source control. Put those > > in software packaging. > ----------------- > Siemens Industry Software GmbH; Anschrift: Am Kabellager 9, 51063 Köln; > Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung; Geschäftsführer: Dr. Erich Bürgel, > Alexander Walter; Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln; Registergericht: Amtsgericht > Köln, HRB 84564; Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Timo Nentwich > > ----------------- > Siemens Industry Software GmbH; Anschrift: Am Kabellager 9, 51063 Köln; > Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung; Geschäftsführer: Dr. Erich Bürgel, > Alexander Walter; Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln; Registergericht: Amtsgericht > Köln, HRB 84564; Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Timo Nentwich >
