I'm kind of bogged down in Guitar Hero 3; Hard is just too hard.  It
needs a level between medium and hard where you use the orange button
only occasionally, and just do more chords, hammer-ons and layoffs.

I thought while I was recovering last month (I had some minor elective
surgery) that I'd finish off Splinter Cell: Double Agent, but it
didn't interest me.  I worked on Tapestry instead!

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just very busy with work and playing video games.  (Tapestry has
>  improved my lifestyle in this area immensely )
>
>  I usually spend more time writing code and learning than communicating
>  with humans,  so it's easy to get lost in that sometimes.
>
>  (sorry if you've felt ignored,  I tend to delete your private emails
>  when I see who the sender is without reading them - as you have
>  nothing interesting to offer)
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Rob Smeets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > And please allow me to also mention that, not only are high profile 
> Tapestry
>  >  users abandoning Tapestry, high profile sites which were using Tapestry 
> are
>  >  also ditching Tapestry. An example is theserverside.com which whacked
>  >  Tapestry like a baseball from their servers and replaced it with another
>  >  webframework, maybe Wicket, I'm not sure. This because they have a 
> business
>  >  model that looked forward into the future. Their model wasn't compatible
>  >  with Tapestry, which would have meant in every major release they would 
> have
>  >  to rewrite their frontend all over again and again.
>  >
>  >  BTW, why is Jesse Kuhnert not participating anymore in the forum? Is he
>  >  going to be the next to deflect?
>  >
>  >  Yours friendly,
>  >
>  >  Rob
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Rob Smeets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >  > Howard,
>  >  >
>  >  > Please stop throwing a dark blanket on me condemning me. Why not pick on
>  >  > the points I made head on and defend yourself? Wel,
>  >  > I'm not surprised you're not doing it because you are not destined to 
> take
>  >  > challenges head on.
>  >  > Is it not true Tapestry's popularity has diminished over the last couple
>  >  > of years or so? Is it not true high profile users have
>  >  > fled away from Tapestry like flies. If you dispute this I can even name
>  >  > more names. That within 7 years you've
>  >  > trained only 100 developers says a lot about the status of Tapestry. I
>  >  > would have expected more than a 1,000 within the seven years,
>  >  > if you say Tapestry is one of the best. I know the mass used to follow
>  >  > Tapestry. But the unfortunate thing is at the release of
>  >  > any major version, you punch them hard in the stomach and then they flee
>  >  > from the schock and pain. At a point in time your
>  >  > ego became inflated to an explosive point. And as we all know, from any
>  >  > bubble there is a burst. That's why you're in the current
>  >  > state.
>  >  > The solution to all your current travails? Maybe you should rename
>  >  > Tapestry 5, to maybe Wicketstry, because it
>  >  > resembles Wicket so much. By doing so all the misery and the hooplas 
> about
>  >  > backward incompatibilty would end and you'll have
>  >  > your peace of mind.
>  >  >
>  >  > Howard, I'm only a messenger and as the saying goes, don't persecute the
>  >  > messenger.
>  >  >
>  >  > Yours friendly,
>  >  >
>  >  > Rob
>  >  >
>  >  > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >  > wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  > > My father in law is a brilliant marketer; he has this incredible
>  >  > > ability to pick up the jargon and terminology of whatever he's working
>  >  > > with.  I remember picking him up from the airport once and he's
>  >  > > chatting about Tapestry and Spring and all that ... and he really
>  >  > > doesn't know what it all is (nor would anyone expect him to), but he's
>  >  > > able to use the correct words at the correct time and sound like he
>  >  > > knows how everything fits together.  It's actually quite impressive.
>  >  > >
>  >  > > I kind of picture Rob as a dark mirror image of this; perhaps he's a
>  >  > > capable engineer with a weird streak and way too much time on his
>  >  > > hands, but based on just the postings here, my picture is of a
>  >  > > socially awkward 15 year old with acne (and maybe a stutter) who is
>  >  > > capable of stringing together words and phrases without really
>  >  > > understanding any of it.  "Rob" gets a sense of power by trying to
>  >  > > "tweak" myself and the Tapestry community.  Very sad ... I went though
>  >  > > a socially awkward stage (say, from age 12 to maybe 30 :-) ) but I
>  >  > > don't remember ever having this kind of destructive, lizard-brain
>  >  > > aspect.
>  >  > >
>  >  > > Mailing lists and blogs are not the real world; anyone who has the
>  >  > > time and obsessive energy to post troll comments the way "Rob" does
>  >  > > has pretty much discounted his voice.  People whose opinion counts,
>  >  > > those who have something valuable to say or have actually accomplished
>  >  > > something worthwhile, are WAY too busy to get into a verbal ping-pong
>  >  > > match with "Rob" here or on some other forum. In that respect, Rob is
>  >  > > a somewhat positive force in the Tapestry world ... by getting the ire
>  >  > > up of the many, many Tapestry users who love the framework and can't
>  >  > > stand to see it bashed.
>  >  > >
>  >  > > The reality is that right now I'm sitting in an office at Formos and
>  >  > > every single person in the building is deriving their living directly
>  >  > > from Tapestry and the effort I've put into it over the last seven
>  >  > > years.  And that's just the company I work for; Over the last few
>  >  > > years, I've trained perhaps 100 developers at many different companies
>  >  > > on how to use Tapestry. I'm likely to double that number in the next
>  >  > > year ... and that's just the tiny tip of the iceberg of Tapestry users
>  >  > > I know about.  I'm excited about what I'm doing now, and I'm excited
>  >  > > about everything we have planned going forward.
>  >  > >
>  >  > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Angelo Turetta
>  >  > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>  >  > > > Martin Kersten wrote:
>  >  > > >
>  >  > > > > I start to like him. What a nice smile this little post put on my
>  >  > > face. I
>  >  > > > like him. He is like the guy who let the sun stay a bit higher if 
> you
>  >  > > know
>  >  > > > what I mean. :-)
>  >  > > > >
>  >  > > >
>  >  > > >  You lucky !!!
>  >  > > >  <joking>
>  >  > > >  I, on the opposite, just hope someone would 'accidentally' pass 
> over
>  >  > > him on
>  >  > > > a 16-wheeler. I'd do it myself, except I have no truck driving
>  >  > > license, and
>  >  > > > I won't happen to pass near Utrecht anytime soon :)
>  >  > > >  </joking>
>  >  > > >
>  >  > > >  What a pity it's always idiots that happen to have so much free 
> time.
>  >  > > I
>  >  > > > just barely manage to spare the time to read the lists I'm 
> interested
>  >  > > in,
>  >  > > > while he follows tapestry's just to insult Howard and crunch balls 
> to
>  >  > > all
>  >  > > > the others...
>  >  > > >
>  >  > > >
>  >  > > >
>  >  > > >
>  >  > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>  >  > > > > Von: Rob Smeets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 11.
>  >  > > April
>  >  > > > 2008 16:34
>  >  > > > > An: Tapestry users
>  >  > > > > Betreff: Re: Getting Answers on the User List
>  >  > > > >
>  >  > > >
>  >  > > >
>  >  > > >
>  >  > > >  
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>  >  > >
>  >  > >
>  >  > > --
>  >  > > Howard M. Lewis Ship
>  >  > >
>  >  > > Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
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>
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