I think it's about time we report this jackass to google or even the FTC. Apart from being a bothersome embarrassment to humanity, he's most likely in violation of google's terms of service as well as at least one law.
Rob Smeets wrote: > Oh, Mr. Lewis Ship, so you're musical. All the musicians I know who program > are forward thinking people and very talented. They don't go and do a > re-work after they've made a release. You've been violating even CS101. I'm > very surprised. > > Your friendly, > > Rob > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I'm kind of bogged down in Guitar Hero 3; Hard is just too hard. It >> needs a level between medium and hard where you use the orange button >> only occasionally, and just do more chords, hammer-ons and layoffs. >> >> I thought while I was recovering last month (I had some minor elective >> surgery) that I'd finish off Splinter Cell: Double Agent, but it >> didn't interest me. I worked on Tapestry instead! >> >> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Just very busy with work and playing video games. (Tapestry has >>> improved my lifestyle in this area immensely ) >>> >>> I usually spend more time writing code and learning than communicating >>> with humans, so it's easy to get lost in that sometimes. >>> >>> (sorry if you've felt ignored, I tend to delete your private emails >>> when I see who the sender is without reading them - as you have >>> nothing interesting to offer) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Rob Smeets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> > And please allow me to also mention that, not only are high profile >>> >> Tapestry >> >>> > users abandoning Tapestry, high profile sites which were using >>> >> Tapestry are >> >>> > also ditching Tapestry. An example is theserverside.com which >>> >> whacked >> >>> > Tapestry like a baseball from their servers and replaced it with >>> >> another >> >>> > webframework, maybe Wicket, I'm not sure. This because they have a >>> >> business >> >>> > model that looked forward into the future. Their model wasn't >>> >> compatible >> >>> > with Tapestry, which would have meant in every major release they >>> >> would have >> >>> > to rewrite their frontend all over again and again. >>> > >>> > BTW, why is Jesse Kuhnert not participating anymore in the forum? Is >>> >> he >> >>> > going to be the next to deflect? >>> > >>> > Yours friendly, >>> > >>> > Rob >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Rob Smeets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> > >>> > > Howard, >>> > > >>> > > Please stop throwing a dark blanket on me condemning me. Why not >>> >> pick on >> >>> > > the points I made head on and defend yourself? Wel, >>> > > I'm not surprised you're not doing it because you are not destined >>> >> to take >> >>> > > challenges head on. >>> > > Is it not true Tapestry's popularity has diminished over the last >>> >> couple >> >>> > > of years or so? Is it not true high profile users have >>> > > fled away from Tapestry like flies. If you dispute this I can even >>> >> name >> >>> > > more names. That within 7 years you've >>> > > trained only 100 developers says a lot about the status of >>> >> Tapestry. I >> >>> > > would have expected more than a 1,000 within the seven years, >>> > > if you say Tapestry is one of the best. I know the mass used to >>> >> follow >> >>> > > Tapestry. But the unfortunate thing is at the release of >>> > > any major version, you punch them hard in the stomach and then >>> >> they flee >> >>> > > from the schock and pain. At a point in time your >>> > > ego became inflated to an explosive point. And as we all know, >>> >> from any >> >>> > > bubble there is a burst. That's why you're in the current >>> > > state. >>> > > The solution to all your current travails? Maybe you should rename >>> > > Tapestry 5, to maybe Wicketstry, because it >>> > > resembles Wicket so much. By doing so all the misery and the >>> >> hooplas about >> >>> > > backward incompatibilty would end and you'll have >>> > > your peace of mind. >>> > > >>> > > Howard, I'm only a messenger and as the saying goes, don't >>> >> persecute the >> >>> > > messenger. >>> > > >>> > > Yours friendly, >>> > > >>> > > Rob >>> > > >>> > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Howard Lewis Ship < >>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > My father in law is a brilliant marketer; he has this incredible >>> > > > ability to pick up the jargon and terminology of whatever he's >>> >> working >> >>> > > > with. I remember picking him up from the airport once and he's >>> > > > chatting about Tapestry and Spring and all that ... and he >>> >> really >> >>> > > > doesn't know what it all is (nor would anyone expect him to), >>> >> but he's >> >>> > > > able to use the correct words at the correct time and sound like >>> >> he >> >>> > > > knows how everything fits together. It's actually quite >>> >> impressive. >> >>> > > > >>> > > > I kind of picture Rob as a dark mirror image of this; perhaps >>> >> he's a >> >>> > > > capable engineer with a weird streak and way too much time on >>> >> his >> >>> > > > hands, but based on just the postings here, my picture is of a >>> > > > socially awkward 15 year old with acne (and maybe a stutter) who >>> >> is >> >>> > > > capable of stringing together words and phrases without really >>> > > > understanding any of it. "Rob" gets a sense of power by trying >>> >> to >> >>> > > > "tweak" myself and the Tapestry community. Very sad ... I went >>> >> though >> >>> > > > a socially awkward stage (say, from age 12 to maybe 30 :-) ) but >>> >> I >> >>> > > > don't remember ever having this kind of destructive, >>> >> lizard-brain >> >>> > > > aspect. >>> > > > >>> > > > Mailing lists and blogs are not the real world; anyone who has >>> >> the >> >>> > > > time and obsessive energy to post troll comments the way "Rob" >>> >> does >> >>> > > > has pretty much discounted his voice. People whose opinion >>> >> counts, >> >>> > > > those who have something valuable to say or have actually >>> >> accomplished >> >>> > > > something worthwhile, are WAY too busy to get into a verbal >>> >> ping-pong >> >>> > > > match with "Rob" here or on some other forum. In that respect, >>> >> Rob is >> >>> > > > a somewhat positive force in the Tapestry world ... by getting >>> >> the ire >> >>> > > > up of the many, many Tapestry users who love the framework and >>> >> can't >> >>> > > > stand to see it bashed. >>> > > > >>> > > > The reality is that right now I'm sitting in an office at Formos >>> >> and >> >>> > > > every single person in the building is deriving their living >>> >> directly >> >>> > > > from Tapestry and the effort I've put into it over the last >>> >> seven >> >>> > > > years. And that's just the company I work for; Over the last >>> >> few >> >>> > > > years, I've trained perhaps 100 developers at many different >>> >> companies >> >>> > > > on how to use Tapestry. I'm likely to double that number in the >>> >> next >> >>> > > > year ... and that's just the tiny tip of the iceberg of Tapestry >>> >> users >> >>> > > > I know about. I'm excited about what I'm doing now, and I'm >>> >> excited >> >>> > > > about everything we have planned going forward. >>> > > > >>> > > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Angelo Turetta >>> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < >>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: >> >>> > > > > Martin Kersten wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > I start to like him. What a nice smile this little post put >>> >> on my >> >>> > > > face. I >>> > > > > like him. He is like the guy who let the sun stay a bit higher >>> >> if you >> >>> > > > know >>> > > > > what I mean. :-) >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > You lucky !!! >>> > > > > <joking> >>> > > > > I, on the opposite, just hope someone would 'accidentally' >>> >> pass over >> >>> > > > him on >>> > > > > a 16-wheeler. I'd do it myself, except I have no truck driving >>> > > > license, and >>> > > > > I won't happen to pass near Utrecht anytime soon :) >>> > > > > </joking> >>> > > > > >>> > > > > What a pity it's always idiots that happen to have so much >>> >> free time. >> >>> > > > I >>> > > > > just barely manage to spare the time to read the lists I'm >>> >> interested >> >>> > > > in, >>> > > > > while he follows tapestry's just to insult Howard and crunch >>> >> balls to >> >>> > > > all >>> > > > > the others... >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>> > > > > > Von: Rob Smeets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: >>> >> Freitag, 11. >> >>> > > > April >>> > > > > 2008 16:34 >>> > > > > > An: Tapestry users >>> > > > > > Betreff: Re: Getting Answers on the User List >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: >>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > -- >>> > > > Howard M. Lewis Ship >>> > > > >>> > > > Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jesse Kuhnert >>> Tapestry / OGNL / Dojo team member/developer >>> >>> Open source based consulting work centered around >>> dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Howard M. 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