Oh, Mr. Lewis Ship, so you're musical. All the musicians I know who program are forward thinking people and very talented. They don't go and do a re-work after they've made a release. You've been violating even CS101. I'm very surprised.
Your friendly, Rob On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm kind of bogged down in Guitar Hero 3; Hard is just too hard. It > needs a level between medium and hard where you use the orange button > only occasionally, and just do more chords, hammer-ons and layoffs. > > I thought while I was recovering last month (I had some minor elective > surgery) that I'd finish off Splinter Cell: Double Agent, but it > didn't interest me. I worked on Tapestry instead! > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just very busy with work and playing video games. (Tapestry has > > improved my lifestyle in this area immensely ) > > > > I usually spend more time writing code and learning than communicating > > with humans, so it's easy to get lost in that sometimes. > > > > (sorry if you've felt ignored, I tend to delete your private emails > > when I see who the sender is without reading them - as you have > > nothing interesting to offer) > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Rob Smeets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > And please allow me to also mention that, not only are high profile > Tapestry > > > users abandoning Tapestry, high profile sites which were using > Tapestry are > > > also ditching Tapestry. An example is theserverside.com which > whacked > > > Tapestry like a baseball from their servers and replaced it with > another > > > webframework, maybe Wicket, I'm not sure. This because they have a > business > > > model that looked forward into the future. Their model wasn't > compatible > > > with Tapestry, which would have meant in every major release they > would have > > > to rewrite their frontend all over again and again. > > > > > > BTW, why is Jesse Kuhnert not participating anymore in the forum? Is > he > > > going to be the next to deflect? > > > > > > Yours friendly, > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Rob Smeets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Howard, > > > > > > > > Please stop throwing a dark blanket on me condemning me. Why not > pick on > > > > the points I made head on and defend yourself? Wel, > > > > I'm not surprised you're not doing it because you are not destined > to take > > > > challenges head on. > > > > Is it not true Tapestry's popularity has diminished over the last > couple > > > > of years or so? Is it not true high profile users have > > > > fled away from Tapestry like flies. If you dispute this I can even > name > > > > more names. That within 7 years you've > > > > trained only 100 developers says a lot about the status of > Tapestry. I > > > > would have expected more than a 1,000 within the seven years, > > > > if you say Tapestry is one of the best. I know the mass used to > follow > > > > Tapestry. But the unfortunate thing is at the release of > > > > any major version, you punch them hard in the stomach and then > they flee > > > > from the schock and pain. At a point in time your > > > > ego became inflated to an explosive point. And as we all know, > from any > > > > bubble there is a burst. That's why you're in the current > > > > state. > > > > The solution to all your current travails? Maybe you should rename > > > > Tapestry 5, to maybe Wicketstry, because it > > > > resembles Wicket so much. By doing so all the misery and the > hooplas about > > > > backward incompatibilty would end and you'll have > > > > your peace of mind. > > > > > > > > Howard, I'm only a messenger and as the saying goes, don't > persecute the > > > > messenger. > > > > > > > > Yours friendly, > > > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Howard Lewis Ship < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > My father in law is a brilliant marketer; he has this incredible > > > > > ability to pick up the jargon and terminology of whatever he's > working > > > > > with. I remember picking him up from the airport once and he's > > > > > chatting about Tapestry and Spring and all that ... and he > really > > > > > doesn't know what it all is (nor would anyone expect him to), > but he's > > > > > able to use the correct words at the correct time and sound like > he > > > > > knows how everything fits together. It's actually quite > impressive. > > > > > > > > > > I kind of picture Rob as a dark mirror image of this; perhaps > he's a > > > > > capable engineer with a weird streak and way too much time on > his > > > > > hands, but based on just the postings here, my picture is of a > > > > > socially awkward 15 year old with acne (and maybe a stutter) who > is > > > > > capable of stringing together words and phrases without really > > > > > understanding any of it. "Rob" gets a sense of power by trying > to > > > > > "tweak" myself and the Tapestry community. Very sad ... I went > though > > > > > a socially awkward stage (say, from age 12 to maybe 30 :-) ) but > I > > > > > don't remember ever having this kind of destructive, > lizard-brain > > > > > aspect. > > > > > > > > > > Mailing lists and blogs are not the real world; anyone who has > the > > > > > time and obsessive energy to post troll comments the way "Rob" > does > > > > > has pretty much discounted his voice. People whose opinion > counts, > > > > > those who have something valuable to say or have actually > accomplished > > > > > something worthwhile, are WAY too busy to get into a verbal > ping-pong > > > > > match with "Rob" here or on some other forum. In that respect, > Rob is > > > > > a somewhat positive force in the Tapestry world ... by getting > the ire > > > > > up of the many, many Tapestry users who love the framework and > can't > > > > > stand to see it bashed. > > > > > > > > > > The reality is that right now I'm sitting in an office at Formos > and > > > > > every single person in the building is deriving their living > directly > > > > > from Tapestry and the effort I've put into it over the last > seven > > > > > years. And that's just the company I work for; Over the last > few > > > > > years, I've trained perhaps 100 developers at many different > companies > > > > > on how to use Tapestry. I'm likely to double that number in the > next > > > > > year ... and that's just the tiny tip of the iceberg of Tapestry > users > > > > > I know about. I'm excited about what I'm doing now, and I'm > excited > > > > > about everything we have planned going forward. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Angelo Turetta > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > > > > > > Martin Kersten wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I start to like him. What a nice smile this little post put > on my > > > > > face. I > > > > > > like him. He is like the guy who let the sun stay a bit higher > if you > > > > > know > > > > > > what I mean. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You lucky !!! > > > > > > <joking> > > > > > > I, on the opposite, just hope someone would 'accidentally' > pass over > > > > > him on > > > > > > a 16-wheeler. I'd do it myself, except I have no truck driving > > > > > license, and > > > > > > I won't happen to pass near Utrecht anytime soon :) > > > > > > </joking> > > > > > > > > > > > > What a pity it's always idiots that happen to have so much > free time. > > > > > I > > > > > > just barely manage to spare the time to read the lists I'm > interested > > > > > in, > > > > > > while he follows tapestry's just to insult Howard and crunch > balls to > > > > > all > > > > > > the others... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > > > > > Von: Rob Smeets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: > Freitag, 11. > > > > > April > > > > > > 2008 16:34 > > > > > > > An: Tapestry users > > > > > > > Betreff: Re: Getting Answers on the User List > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Howard M. Lewis Ship > > > > > > > > > > Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jesse Kuhnert > > Tapestry / OGNL / Dojo team member/developer > > > > Open source based consulting work centered around > > dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > Howard M. Lewis Ship > > Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
