LOL! Great saying!

I was asked for something positive......

Regards,
Timm

Am Donnerstag, 7. August 2008 18:09:03 schrieb Peter Ertl:
> I don't need nearly as much extensions for wicket because
> it's such a no-brainer to write my own custom components...
>
> I think JSF is a big joke with nobody laughing :)
>
> my 2 %
>
> Cheers
> Peter
>
> Am 07.08.2008 um 17:59 schrieb Timm Helbig:
> > Sorry, not really.
> >
> > *) JSF doesn't consume less Memory over Wicket. But this is not
> > really an
> > Argument since Hardware isn't that expensive today.
> > *) Maybe the availability of Millions of extension Libraries for JSF.
> > *) EL Tags are quite useful, but IMHO just another way to do the same
> > thing.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Timm
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, 7. August 2008 08:44:22 schrieb nlif:
> >> Thanks Timm. This is valuable feedback. Nevertheless - can you
> >> point to any
> >> advantage JSF has over Wicket? Anything at all?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Timm Helbig wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I did one Project with JSF and two with Wicket.
> >>>
> >>> By far Wicket is much easier to handle, (nearly) everything works as
> >>> supposed,
> >>> which is not true for JSF, especially when it comes to external
> >>> Libraries
> >>> like Trinidad or other UI Extension Libraries.
> >>>
> >>> One other thing which is important for me is the Productivity.
> >>> And this
> >>> is
> >>> much higher with Wicket than with JSF.
> >>>
> >>> The Community support is suberb with Wicket, and somewhat
> >>> difficult when
> >>> you
> >>> check the JSF Forums, but this depends on the Manufactor of the
> >>> Library
> >>> you
> >>> use.
> >>>
> >>> I don't want to slash JSF here, but I find it is miles away from a
> >>> usable
> >>> Product. For me it looks more like a prototype of what could be
> >>> possible.
> >>> Just check what happened from 1.1  to 1.2, and you see, that even
> >>> Sun
> >>> seemed
> >>> to face this.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Timm
> >>>
> >>> Am Mittwoch, 6. August 2008 11:13:53 schrieb nlif:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> We are in the process of selecting a web-framework, and although
> >>>> I am in
> >>>> favor of Wicket, I was asked to provide an objective comparison of
> >>>> Wicket with JSF. I have developed a few small apps in Wicket, but I
> >>>> admit I am not
> >>>> very familiar with JSF. Prior to posting here, I googled a bit, and
> >>>> found a
> >>>> few forum-threads and blog posts on this topic, but most are from
> >>>> 1-2
> >>>> years
> >>>> ago and in framework years, this may be considered obsolete.
> >>>>
> >>>> Although this is the Wicket forum, I expect there are people here
> >>>> who
> >>>> also
> >>>> used (or at least evaluated) JSF at some point, so I'd be happy
> >>>> if folks
> >>>> here could share their experience. If anyone can point me to useful
> >>>> links that would be great too.
> >>>>
> >>>> I really am not trying to provoke a flame war, just to gather
> >>>> information.
> >>>>
> >>>> In your opinion, what are Wicket strengths? What are JSF's ?
> >>>> (even if
> >>>> you're a Wicket fan, surely there's something ;)
> >>>>
> >>>> I would be interested to hear people thoughts regarding the fact
> >>>> the JSF
> >>>> is
> >>>> a standard, while Wicket is not. How important is that to you? In
> >>>> what
> >>>> ways
> >>>> do you think this matters (if at all)?
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, supposedly JSF has a larger selection of 3rd party components
> >>>> compared to Wicket. Is this true? how often do you find yourself
> >>>> rolling
> >>>> your own components and how hard is it to do so in Wicket (and I
> >>>> mean
> >>>> non-trivial-good-looking-Ajax-enabled stuff).
> >>>>
> >>>> Many thanks in advance.
> >>>
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