VACList DigestVACList-Digest Saturday, August 31, 2002 Issue 411
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Dumpiing & Sagging coach
2. removing reflectors and nameplate for polishing
3. Re: outside light cover
4. Show and tell?
5. Hotmail & .msn accounts
6. Re: removing reflectors and nameplate for polishing
7. Re: Elect. portion of Frig.
8. Re: sagging rears
9. Re: Dent Eraser
10. Re: Elect. portion of Frig.
11. Re: Elect. portion of Frig.
12. Re: Show and tell?
13. Local news story
14. Re: outside light cover
15. Re: outside light cover
16. Re: outside light cover
17. Re: outside light cover
18. Re: removing reflectors and nameplate for polishing
19. Local news story
20. Re: Local news story
21. Re: Local news story
22. Remove caulking
23. Stove problem solved
24. Re: Stove problem solved
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Message Number: 1
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:02:34 -0400
From: "James Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dumpiing & Sagging coach
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Very funny, Tom. Great tongue in cheek response. I just hope the newbies =
don't take it at face value.=20
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
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Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 18:34
Subject: [VAC] Dumpiing & Sagging coach
Jim,
Dumping keeps you regular.
As for the monocoque structure of the Airstream I don't quite think =
you understand how the sum of all parts equals a very strong unit. Have =
you ever done mechanical work on aircraft? You'd be very surprised when =
you found out how light the material really is yet how strong it really =
is at the same time. What about structural engineering? Have you ever =
studied that before? You'd be amazed and saying to yourself, "How'd =
they do that!?"
Andy is right and he knows from where he speaks in regards to the =
sagging rears.
Just remember to keep dumping when you need to and you will be OK. =
Right, Andy?
Tom in NC
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20
Subject: [VAC] Re: Sagging coach
.................. I try never to go any distance without dumping =
. .Also full tanks tend to throw the trailer out of balance.
Jim Smith
1965 Tradewind(The Silver Abaltross)
1992Dodge Cummins Diesel
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Very funny, Tom. Great tongue in cheek =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jim,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dumping keeps you =
regular.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As for the monocoque structure of the =
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very surprised when you found out how light the material really is yet =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just remember to keep dumping when =
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and you will be OK. Right, Andy?</FONT></DIV>
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Message Number: 2
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 18:51:09 -0600
From: Ken Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: removing reflectors and nameplate for polishing
hi there: I've checked tom's vaclist archive and haven't found a
specific answer to my question:
I've got a 69 globetrotter and have been stripping it in preparation to
polish. I want to remove the refrigerator vent cover on the roof which
is pop-riveted on, as are marker reflectors. I'd also like to remove
and refurbish the nameplates on front and back of the trailer. any
suggestions on 'easy' ways to remove these things? I know next to
nothing
about rivets and riveting so I thought I'd consult the list before I get
myself into something I can't reverse. I read in some list entries
that people drill out the rounded rivets on the nameplates. would
someone discuss that technique? same procedure for pop rivets? other
tips? am I better off leaving everything intact and stripping and
polishing around these items? the refrigerator vent, though, really
needs to come off so that I can repaint it as well.
let me know. thanks in advance.
________________
Ken Roth
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
415.550.6958
503.709.5373 (cell)
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Message Number: 3
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 21:36:50 -0400
From: Matt Worner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: outside light cover
Bob,
You might want to look at some of the white LED arrays. All light, no heat.
Not cheap, but typically burn about 10 mA per LED. A number of places have
direct replacements for the lamps in automotive applications, e.g.. 12 volts,
same socket base. I left a 2 LED flashlight on over the weekend one time, and
used the same (AA) batteries for an additional 3 weeks before I got around to
changing them. They are efficient as all getout, and will never burn out in OUR
lifetime. Take some nasty bumps as well.
My Airstream wrote:
<snip>. Wondering when I do replace the melted lens if a lower
> wattage bulb would solve the melt down problem. The existing light is very
> bright.
>
> Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
> 66 Airstream Safari
> Mira Mar Mobile Park
> Oceanside, CA
>
>
Matt (planning to replace all my lamps, if I hit the lottery, otherwise one
fixture at a time)
and Pam (lamp of the year club advocate)
--
Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner
WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971
1975 31' Sovereign, (The Tinsel Tubesteak)
1976 24' Argosy rear door (Bun Metallica)
2000 F-350 PSD
Hensley Arrow
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Message Number: 4
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 19:04:11 -0700
From: Jeffrey Engle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Show and tell?
Hi, After spending 2 years re-doing our 77' Sovereign, We're anxious to
show it off! Just a problem or two? my phone line to this computer was
here when Wyatt Earp was fightin' at the OK Corral!!! and I can't upload
photo's very well..Anybody got any ideas??? I'd also love to see other
completed treasures as well....the idea I had was to possibly send
photo's to someone and have them put on the internet? thanks again,
Jeff
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Message Number: 5
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 19:08:01 -0700
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hotmail & .msn accounts
Those of you who receive the list via hotmail and .msn accounts might
want to consider changing email account providers if getting your mail
is important to you.
In reviewing the list server logs, it's evident many of you don't
receive many of the Digests and messages, as the "Delivery to the
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VAC Webmaster
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Message Number: 6
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 21:37:45 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: removing reflectors and nameplate for polishing
Hi Ken,
I have '69 Safari that has similar name plate problems. I found that the
light bezels are riveted from the inside as might be some of the name
plates. Removal involves a thin blade being driven under the attachment to
cut the rivets off. Replacement is accomplished by drilling through from
the outside and securing with new pop rivets. More than likely, the name
plate will be broken as it's really fragile chrome covered pot metal?
I haven't tackled the refrigerator or other vent covers yet - still working
on the inside of the Safari. I note that the covers are in poor condition
and are mostly cracked around the rivets, etc. An exact replacement might
not be available if it is broken during removal or reinstallation - a good
bet to happen. I drilled some buck rivets out by punching as close to the
center of the head as possible and using an undersized drill. Pretty easy
to pop the heads off with a chisel once they are drilled.
Keep me posted about your successes/failures so I can work smarter when I
get to this restoration. :)
'69 Safari, Joy
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Message Number: 7
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 22:03:45 -0600
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Elect. portion of Frig.
Jim,
I'm of the "the only dumb question is the one that doesn't get asked" school.
There are actually two ways to check the heater. With the power off, remove one
lead to the heater and measure between that and the other lead that is still
hooked up. Removing one lead isolates the element. Your measurement should be
48-52 ohms. A second way to check is with the power on check for 110V across
the leads. If you measure 110V the heater is bad, minute or no voltage means
it's OK.
Charlie
James Greene wrote:
> Charlie, dumb question time -- how would one measure the resistance? Unplug
> the heating element from the 110V service and measure the resistance
> through the heating element? If there's 110V at the heating element and no
> heat, pretty likely the element has a break.
>
> Jim Greene
> ' 68 Tradewind
>
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> From: "Charlie/Betty Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 23:16
> Subject: [VAC] Re: Elect. portion of Frig.
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> > Derek,
> >
> > The electric heating element has very likely failed. A quick check would
> > be to measure resistance between the leads of the heating element. It
> > should be in the neighborhood of 50 ohms. Replacements are available.
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > > Hello, I have a 73 Excella 500 w/ Original Frig works fine on propane
> > > but has stopped working on elec. have power from the junction box to
> > > T-stat how does one ck the 110 heating element what should the
> > > resistance be on a good unit and are they available still? Any input
> > > is appreciated!
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> > > Thank you all, Derek
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Message Number: 8
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 00:32:05 EDT
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Subject: Re: sagging rears
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OK guys, I didn't mean to start a fight. Living in Michigan, where the state
tree is the orange construction barrel and where we have potholes that
swallow unknowing subcompacts, I'm assuming I could quickly develop a case of
sagging rear by what you guys are saying. Thanks to all for the info, I now
know to keep from having a tin banana, I have to stay balanced and regular!
Jason
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<BR>OK guys, I didn't mean to start a fight. Living in Michigan, where the state tree
is the orange construction barrel and where we have potholes that swallow unknowing
subcompacts, I'm assuming I could quickly develop a case of sagging rear by what you
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Message Number: 9
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 22:04:28 -0700
From: Rik & Susan Beeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dent Eraser
That electroimpact machine looks amazing! Any idea what it costs? Many
thousands, most likely! ~ Rik
Tuna wrote:
>on the other end of the expensive spectrum, i found this electromagnetic
>'dent-puller' used on aircraft:
>http://www.electroimpact.com/edr.asp
>looks very expensive... and heavy... it weighs around 850lbs. but it works
>from one side of the dent.
>
>tuna
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Message Number: 10
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 02:37:48 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Elect. portion of Frig.
Just a question from a not tech person. Why can't the electric temp
control be turned to high and just check the resistance across the plug
terminals?
Supposedly the heating element is open/burned-out. If so, the reading
across the plug terminals should be infinite resistance? Seems an easier
way to check?
'69 Safari, Joy
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Message Number: 11
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 07:58:44 -0700
From: James Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Elect. portion of Frig.
Opening the thermostat should be the same as disconnecting one end... but
if you can lift one end, then you are sure... voltage readings across the
element should give the line voltage with the element either good or bad...
( V=IR for the working and line voltage for the open element ) either way
it's line voltage..For a dead shorted element, the voltage would be low
(R=0) but the current high and fuses should open.... If the thermostat does
not open when you turn it up, then you will read back through the trailer
and every light bulb, battery charger, etc...make sure the shore power is
pulled, or hopefully you will have a fuse in your meter....
Think this through before you buy in ... it's been a while...
Jim
At 02:37 AM 8/31/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Just a question from a not tech person. Why can't the electric temp
>control be turned to high and just check the resistance across the plug
>terminals?
>
>Supposedly the heating element is open/burned-out. If so, the reading
>across the plug terminals should be infinite resistance? Seems an easier
>way to check?
>
> '69 Safari, Joy
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Message Number: 12
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 09:40:18 -0400
From: Matt Worner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Show and tell?
Jeffrey,
If you can get them to me on a disc or CD I'd be glad to post them for you.
My CO (central office) connection is only about 8k cable feet, so I have DSL
service. Contact me off list if interested and I'll get my snail mail
address to you.
Matt
Jeffrey Engle wrote:
> <snip> the idea I had was to possibly send
> photo's to someone and have them put on the internet? thanks again,
> Jeff
>
>
Matt
--
Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner
WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971
1975 31' Sovereign, (The Tinsel Tubesteak)
1976 24' Argosy rear door (Bun Metallica)
2000 F-350 PSD
Hensley Arrow
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Message Number: 13
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 09:51:21 -0700
From: "Tim Shephard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Local news story
Our local news did a nice story on vintage airstreams last night. I posted
the video on my website.
http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/airstream/
Enjoy
-Tim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
eFax (508) 590-0302
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Message Number: 14
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 11:45:10 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: outside light cover
There has been quite a bit of scuttle and I've had some personal experience
with LED lights. I had never thought of them for this application but now
that you have pointed it out, I will look for an LED array with the proper
base to fit in the outside light fixture on my Safari. If that does not pan
out I'll just drop the wattage to reduce the heat and lower the intensity.
The existing light is very bright. It's no wonder that it fried the
fixture.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
From: "Matt Worner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [VAC] Re: outside light cover
> Bob,
>
> You might want to look at some of the white LED arrays. All light, no
heat.
> Not cheap, but typically burn about 10 mA per LED. A number of places
have
> direct replacements for the lamps in automotive applications, e.g.. 12
volts,
> same socket base.
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Message Number: 15
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 16:24:55 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: outside light cover
Bob.
we have come up with an "LED" that covers the same space as the old wedding
cake. You can see them on our web site, inlandrv.com Click on parts
and then scroll to part number 65601. Click on "view part" to see it.
Andy
inlandrv.com
airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 16
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 13:36:06 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: outside light cover
65601 is really fine looking. Hoping that you will come up with an
equivalent LED for the Signal Stat E-36 that acts as a "porch light" next to
the door.
Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com
66 Airstream Safari
Mira Mar Mobile Park
Oceanside, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 1:24 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: outside light cover
> Bob.
> we have come up with an "LED" that covers the same space as the old
wedding
> cake. You can see them on our web site, inlandrv.com Click on
parts
> and then scroll to part number 65601. Click on "view part" to see it.
>
> Andy
> inlandrv.com
> airstreamparts.com
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Message Number: 17
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 16:54:47 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: outside light cover
Bob. That will be a tougher one, as the scare light, still takes "watts."
Andy
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Message Number: 18
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 16:14:13 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: removing reflectors and nameplate for polishing
You will need to get a good metal paint scraper with a solid handle. Then
lay it flat to the skin and hammer it under the emblem or vent at the rivet
point. This will shear the rivet off even with the skin. Sounds drastic, but
it is really quite easy.
Now when you replace the emblem, you will need to mount them with
pop-rivets. You can then paint the tops to match the painted area where the
rivets are placed.
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From: "Ken Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 7:51 PM
Subject: [VAC] removing reflectors and nameplate for polishing
> hi there: I've checked tom's vaclist archive and haven't found a
> specific answer to my question:
>
> I've got a 69 globetrotter and have been stripping it in preparation to
> polish. I want to remove the refrigerator vent cover on the roof which
> is pop-riveted on, as are marker reflectors. I'd also like to remove
> and refurbish the nameplates on front and back of the trailer. any
> suggestions on 'easy' ways to remove these things? I know next to
> nothing
> about rivets and riveting so I thought I'd consult the list before I get
> myself into something I can't reverse. I read in some list entries
> that people drill out the rounded rivets on the nameplates. would
> someone discuss that technique? same procedure for pop rivets? other
> tips? am I better off leaving everything intact and stripping and
> polishing around these items? the refrigerator vent, though, really
> needs to come off so that I can repaint it as well.
>
> let me know. thanks in advance.
> ________________
> Ken Roth
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 415.550.6958
> 503.709.5373 (cell)
>
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Message Number: 19
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 15:09:07 -0600
From: "Maxwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Local news story
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Very cool...Thanks for sharing it!=20
Shari Davis
'64 GlobeTrotter - "Maxwell"
WBCCI #1824, VAC
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Message Number: 20
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:12:11 -0400
From: "James Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Local news story
Thanks for sharing this TV clip, Tim. I'm passing it on to others.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Shephard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 12:51
Subject: [VAC] Local news story
> Our local news did a nice story on vintage airstreams last night. I
posted
> the video on my website.
>
> http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/airstream/
>
> Enjoy
>
> -Tim
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Message Number: 21
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 15:12:44 -0700
From: "Tim Shephard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Local news story
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Does anyone know any of the people shown? Are you one of those peoples =
;-) ?
It looks like it was taken at this years Snug Harbor ralley in Rio =
Vista, CA.
-Tim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
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Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 2:09 PM
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Very cool...Thanks for sharing it!=20
Shari Davis
'64 GlobeTrotter - "Maxwell"
WBCCI #1824, VAC
www.insideout-design.net/maxwell
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Message Number: 22
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 18:30:01 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Remove caulking
A recent heavy rain brought in moisture on the front floor. Thank goodness we
hadn't worked on the floor yet. Examination of exterior seams in the area
revealed loose caulking. The caulking is some sort of silicone. Before we can
caulk with Vulkem we have to remove this old stuff. What kind of tool can we
use so we don't scratch the aluminum?
Jeanne
1971 Safari
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Message Number: 23
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 19:12:54 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Stove problem solved
Hi Everyone,
A few weeks back I asked help in locating parts for my old Magic Chef stove.
This is the end of the story. The Airstream dealer in my part of MI looked at
the old stove and said the valves were shot and that they couldn't get
replacement parts. Then I got on our List and asked for help. Some of you
referred me to salvage firms. Two offered me your old ones for free but you
live far away. Other suggestions were to replace the stove with a cooktop and
forget the oven which usually isn't used much anyway. One person suggested I
check with local appliance repair places. That seemed to be the least work so
I called a used appliance dealer and asked if he had parts for old gas
stoves. He said "No problem." He had lots of old gas stove parts and knew
where to get new replacements if needed. I now have a working stove/oven with
4 new valves and burners at one-third the cost of a new stove/oven.
Furthermore I'm authentic!
Jeanne
1971 Safari
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Message Number: 24
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 16:53:53 -0700
From: Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stove problem solved
Jeane,
Great update. Short of a rusted out hot water tank, there is almost no
appliance that can't be repaired. There is nothing magical about an
appliance being in a trailer - there were/are only a few manufactures of
parts back then, and now.
In any community there are appliance parts stores and many small shops
that can supply the materials and services needed to restore anything.
All it takes is perseverance and/or mechanical aptitude.
If you go to the typical RV dealer with an inoperative appliance, the
simple truth is most are going to recommend replacement for 3 very basic
reasons.
1- Higher profit margin. Labor is very expensive compared to the cost
of a new unit.
2- Liability. With a new unit the manufacturer carries the greatest
share of liability - with a repair it is all with the repairman.
3- Warranty. There is a greater chance that a repaired appliance may
require a follow-up visit or develop later problems the owner may feel
is the responsibility of the repairman.
Dang, one of these days I just may open up my own shop here in the Bay
Area. If United Airlines goes bankrupt, I just may do that...
Later,
RJ
(feeling gumpy)
On Saturday, August 31, 2002, at 04:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> <snip>
> I called a used appliance dealer and asked if he had parts for old gas
> stoves. He said "No problem." He had lots of old gas stove parts and
> knew
> where to get new replacements if needed. I now have a working
> stove/oven with
> 4 new valves and burners at one-third the cost of a new stove/oven.
> Furthermore I'm authentic!
>
> Jeanne
> 1971 Safari
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