In the good news bad news department:

Good news: this thread has brought out some discussion

Bad news: it ends up being about personal/business disagreements.

In the FWIW Department:

Beach Walks with Rox has a 60% male 40% female audience, over 95% of
whom have completed some college. Our peeps are a curious mix of young
techie guys and older retired couples. Many tell us they watch at home
with the family as well as at work to chill out - even whole teams
watch and discuss the daily topics sometime. We have beautiful
scenery, thoughtful topics (environment, Hawaiiana,  relationships,
music, occasional tech, travel), and the most common response we get
is that people feel better (clearer, less stressed, "head on square")
after watching. We even have an adorable (if not "sexy") black lab,
Lexi!

We are confused why our audience hasn't grown bigger faster. Some
things just don't make sense yet - as there is so much disruption
going on. There is not a formula on the planet that is guaranteed to
work.  IMO, you gots to enjoy the process as at the end of the day,
that's what you got.

Aloha,

Rox


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Roxanne Darling
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On Nov 13, 2007 6:51 AM, Eric Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Besides, how ever did we get along with major blockbuster motion
>  pictures and indie films? How did college radio kick ass in the abyss
>  of Clear Channel.
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>  Do numbers actually matter?
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>  ER
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>  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Adam Quirk, Wreck & Salvage"
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>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > So what we should really be asking is, "How do I get on TV?"
>  >
>  > BRB...loading pistol.
>  >
>  > I agree with most of this though. When I started doing this a few years
>  > ago, that question would have sounded like the antithesis of what
>  everyone
>  > was trying to accomplish, trying to break into a walled garden. Now it
>  > sounds more like a utilitarian question, like "How do I get my
>  enclosures to
>  > show up in iTunes?" That said, the television world has a lot to
>  lose by
>  > letting the huddled masses in under their tent. I doubt the TV+Netvideo
>  > marriage going to happen as soon as people think.
>  >
>  > AQ
>  >
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>  > On Nov 13, 2007 11:22 AM, Eric Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > > One current project I haven't talked too much about has to do with
>  > > delivering audio and video content to set-top boxes, not those novelty
>  > > ones like slingboxes and such, but more of the XBOX, Playstation and
>  > > Wii (two of which have Opera-based browsing with Flash support, two
>  > > have hard drives and such). The audience is there. It's hard, but the
>  > > audience is there. Will we collectively be willing to do the hard work
>  > > to get the audience, or do we want the half-assed tech ethic of 'slap
>  > > that crap together and pray'.
>  > >
>  > > That said, I believe certain content has advantages over others. Do a
>  > > show about gaming, sex, cars or any of the 'religious' topics, and it
>  > > will help. I'd love to know what the Escapist's video 'Zero
>  > > Punctuation' gets as far as traffic because it's so painfully funny.
>  > > Want to make money and get a huge audience? Do a Justin Timberlake
>  > > fancast. There's a reason that MuggleCast and others are hits. Ironic,
>  > > really.
>  > >
>  > > I also will support (but not like) the idea that hot chicks and TV
>  > > training help. Look at some of the big shows. Then flip a coin. Of
>  > > course there will be exceptions, and we can deconstruct all day, but
>  > > when we do that, we're not quite normal, are we? When Amanda and
>  > > Rocketboom split, you could almost scientifically see the gaps in how
>  > > the content (and her) were perceived based on closeness to the
>  > > epicenter (we were soooo smart and intellectual on this list, and in
>  > > the distant blogosphere it was 'uh, what?' and in the mass space (USA
>  > > Today blog comments) it was flat out retarded.
>  > >
>  > > I'm still waiting for good hi-definition content come out of this
>  > > spacem, because I, like many fat bloated americans, enjoy sitting on
>  > > my ass in front of my home theater (this goes totally against the
>  > > indiepunkish ethos of 'well I don't owwwwwwn a television', etc) and
>  > > having my ears tantalized in 7.1 surround sound.
>  > >
>  > > There are three types of content I adore-- Video, video and sometimes
>  > > video. Sometimes it's on YouTube, sometimes it's buried in a forum
>  > > someplace, and other times, it comes from a TV studio or DVD (my god I
>  > > love Entourage, don't you?).
>  > >
>  > > We are the Content Creation Class-- we're kinda different than
>  > > everyone else (read: consumers). But damn, how does your audio podcast
>  > > compete with the non-interface of turning on satellite radio in the
>  > > car? Apples to Oranges, and our risk for elitism just *hates* that
>  > > kind of reality. :)
>  > >
>  > > ER
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert <rupert@> wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > > On 13 Nov 2007, at 11:38, Bill Cammack wrote:
>  > > > > I wondered how to drag all of those people, aimlessly streaming
>  > > > past me, into viewing an online show.....
>  > > >
>  > > > ---
>  > > >
>  > > > Set top box. That's the only way you'll get people watching online
>  > > > shows. I don't know if you use the term 'set top box' in the US. I
>  > > > just mean a box that plugs into your TV. One that'd allow people to
>  > > > watch ordinary network shows on their widescreen tv and also surf
>  > > > internet TV.
>  > > >
>  > > > People will not watch shows on a computer. Do you know anybody who
>  > > > watches anything on a computer? Other than the odd bored moment
>  > > > surfing old TV shows on Youtube? My friends and family will
>  watch my
>  > > > videoblog, mostly because I've forced them to by subscribing
>  them via
>  > > > email, but they won't then go on to watch any of the vlogs I
>  link to,
>  > > > or click on the URLs of people who comment.
>  > > >
>  > > > Computers are full of distractions, and are quite hard things to use
>  > > > if you want to concentrate on or relax to motion picture
>  > > > entertainment. The TV / Couch combo works. I firmly believe it's
>  > > > just a matter of someone bringing internet video to the couch.
>  Until
>  > > > then, forget it.
>  > > >
>  > > > Rupert
>  > > > http://twittervlog.tv/
>  > > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
>  > > >
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>  > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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>  > >
>  > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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>  >
>  > --
>  > Adam Quirk
>  > Wreck & Salvage
>  > 551.208.4644
>  > Brooklyn, NY
>  > http://wreckandsalvage.com
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