I'm just curious, are there any other mailing lists out there for blind
users of the iPhone? I guess I'm looking for something with a bit less
traffic and something that's a bit more on topic. I don't own, and I'm
not interested in, any stand alone GPS devices or any other Apple
products. I also have plenty of other sources to hear and be warned
about different scams. I don't begrudge people talking about whatever
they want to on this list, it isn't my list after all, I'm just
wondering if there's anything out there that might be a more efficient
use of my time. This is a great list, with a lot of smart people on it
who provide tons of great information and a pair of really great
moderators. The iPhone traffic alone though makes it a pretty high
traffic list.

On 10/08/12 13:51, Mary Ellen Sanchez wrote:
> How much is the breeze??
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Les Kriegler
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: GPS Apps & Stand-A-Lone GPS Units
> 
> The Trekker Breeze from Humanware or the BrailleSense from Hymms or one of
> the Humanware Notetakers.  The Breeze is the least expensive of those
> options.
> 
> Les
> On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:57 PM, "Mary Ellen Sanchez"
> <sanchez.maryel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> hi if i may ask are there any other devices i could get and how much 
>> areb they?? i am looking for a stand alone dev ice something separate 
>> than the i phone or note taker like a hand held device.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Ron Pelletier
>> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 5:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: GPS Apps & Stand-A-Lone GPS Units
>>
>> Eileen,
>>
>> I am so glad you brought that up.  Ever since my very first Trekker 
>> about 5 years ago, I have been saying that a GPS is a good mobility 
>> tool and nothing else.  As well as helping you, it can also get you 
>> killed if you pay more attention to it than to your orientation and 
>> mobility.  You must never pay so much attention to the device that you 
>> forget to pay attention to what you are doing.  If I am about to cross 
>> a street and the GPS talks while I am reading my traffic, I ignore it 
>> and make my crossing as I have been trained to do and just stop and 
>> press the repeat button on the other side.  It also seems to me like 
>> too many people think that the GPS will go and place your hand on the 
>> door knob.  I am lucky to get within 10 metres of a target and use my
> dog's and my ability to do the rest.
>>
>> Ron & Danvers
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi
>> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: GPS Apps & Stand-A-Lone GPS Units
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have been following this thread and I am concern that individuals 
>> are relying too much on GPS apps or stand-a-lone GPS units. We must 
>> remember that GPS is only a tool and it doesn't replace our 
>> orientation and mobility skills. It's to give us information and the 
>> information is only as good as the databases that the GPS apps or 
>> separate units have access to. This past weekend I was up in San 
>> Francisco and all three GPS products were having issues in giving 
>> precise information. At one point, all of them stated to turn left 
>> where there was a "No Left Turn" sign (car route mode). I understand 
>> that the choices we make regarding which GPS apps one will use is a 
>> personal matter, and individual GPS apps should not be knocked. This 
>> can give a misconception to those who haven't purchased a GPS app for 
>> their phone. As one of the other posts stated, it will all change when 
>> the iPhone5 will be available regarding the purchasing of GPS apps. I 
>> just hope that Apple gets it right the first time. Now!! I will 
>> probably be cut down for this, but it is the Sendero GPS on my Apex 
>> that I eventually turn on to get more precise information and options 
>> that are not  available on my GPS apps on the phone. At least I have 
>> lots of options to get the info that I need when I am out-and-about.
> However, these options do not replace my ability to travel with the white
> cane.
>>
>> Thanks for listening. 
>>
>> Eileen
>>
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