Hi all,
I wonder, seriously, if it's time to talk with Apple about this.
We almost all hate iTunes with a passion, ... and it's not surprising!
It's really unfair that VI's should have to put up with this all the
time ... It's so bad that Apple should let such a standard exist for
those of us who really need iTunes to be straightforward, work
flawlessly out of the box, have minimal changes made and ... heaps more!
We could all write to Accessability but, before we do, can some of those
who are knowledgeable perhaps give us all the things that don't
currently work or were broken with iOS 9? Then we could write
individually, perhaps.
Does anyone know if there are strong enough feelings within Applevis for
those who are obviously probably more clued up than the average iTunes
VI user about the problems and would back us in a meaningful way?
If anyone feels they could draft anything appropriate for us to tweak
then that may also be worth it before sending, so that we don't all say
exactly the same thing!
Perhaps they should be encouraged to write an app specially for us that
really works, that can only be used with an I device which is obviously
running VoiceOver (so could be detected). Yes, OK, theoretically, others
could turn on VO just to use the programme, and I guess some would as
many sighted people hate it - but maybe there are other safeguards Apple
could write into the programme, perhaps even being prepared to give us a
special ID code.
Well, I've opened a can of worms here and please remember these are just
thoughts off the top of my head ... so let's keep this thread going awhile!
Carol P - Who hates iTunes with a passion and uses as little as she can
get away with!
Carol P
On 29/04/2016 06:30, Gordan Radić wrote:
Yes, I agree, iTunes for Windows is a pain.
I really can't comprehend why this app is so complicated. It could be
as useful as it is with much, much more simpler interface but Apple
keeps it up complicated. There's also a problem with interface changes
on every major version update.
I can do basic things such as syncing ringtones and multimedia, backup
and restore but browsing the App Store or use a file sharing feature
is driving me crazy.
And, iCloud Drive for Windows can't be used if you don't have sighted
assistance for the initial setup...
Bad job, Apple!
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29.4.2016. u 3:15, Richard Turner je napisao/la:
As a Window-Eyes user, I'd like to say that this is true, and in some ways it
is.
However, the real truth, in my opinion, is that Apple makes it very hard for
Windows based screen readers to work well with iTunes.
From what I have heard from JAWS and NVDA users, is that some'things work fine
with those screen readers and some things don't.
That is true with Window-Eyes as well.
It really depends on how much one uses iTunes and what aspects the person uses
the most as to which screen reader might perform the best.
No matter which screen reader you use, the bottom line is you need to know how
to use it's advanced features if you are going to get anywhere with the Windows
version of iTunes.
GW Micro was the first ones to really work with Apple to make iTunes
accessible. But the later versions of iTunes have made everything more
complicated.
Richard
“The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be pretty
sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.”
Elizabeth Taylor
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)
On Apr 28, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Mary Otten<motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have never used iTunes for windows, because I have a Mac. However, if friend
of mine was just told by an Apple accessibility senior representative that
window eyes works with iTunes for windows and is the only screen reader which
Apple says does that. I know that a few years ago, and it literally has been
years, GW micro had been touting this fact. But I know a lot of changes have
happened with both window eyes and iTunes since then I suspect that this is the
case of apple not keeping their propaganda, I mean their publication,
up-to-date. So for you who use Windows version of iTunes and screen readers two
questions. One, Is it true, WE users, that iTunes works perfectly well with the
latest version of window eyes? And two, what about other screen readers? Do any
work well?
Mary
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