Hello Everyone, As the conversation in this thread has gotten way off-topic, I request that it be closed.
Thank you, Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 6:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes for windows and screen readers Perhaps if Apple could get someone to write a Accessible version of a program to make it much easier to transfer content to your Ios device, that would be great! From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 6:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes for windows and screen readers Keep in mind that more control is proportionally equal to less security. There is a reason why there is so much mal ware and stuff out there affecting the Android platform and very little plagues iOS. I know there are a few Android fan boys and girls on here and I am probably going to generate outraged comments with this, but the facts are the facts. I don’t want to say that iOS is perfect since nothing is, but I gladly have a secure phone over one which allows me and everybody else along with it to do whatever I want with it. I think iOS has come a long way in the last 3 or so years in making it more open with extensibility and all that without seriously sacrificing the secure “walled garden” concept. Regards, Sieghard From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 2:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes for windows and screen readers Mary, please don't! I won't either! Long live as both :-) On 6 May 2016, at 16:17, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: I am with you, Carol. I can't get very excited about these drives, so long as their use is circumscribed with the use of a single app. That is a huge advantage of android. If Apple would just let us have greater control, as you say, that would be great. I probably shouldn't hold my breath waiting for that though. Mary Sent from my iPhone On May 6, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote: I’ll keep you updated. The Leef Ibridge flash drive has it’s own app. From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 6:18 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes for windows and screen readers Do keep us updated with this because I am interested. Does the drive save in your usual folders or does it have its own software, do you know? I guess it has its own software and that is what I do not really like. I wish Apple would allow us to take more control of our phones! :-) Carol P Sent from my iPhone using MBraille On 4 May 2016, at 14:45, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote: At this point in time, the only drive I know that has the open in option, is the Leef Ibridge. If anyone knows of any other drive that has the open in option, I would like to know about it. I'm waiting for them to make this app accessible with voiceover. Perhaps if several of us write tech support, this will happen real soon! -----Original Message----- From: Terrie Terlau Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 5:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes for windows and screen readers Hi all, I am very eager to try one of these drives. However, I was first under the impression that most of them allowed the "Send to" option so that material on the drive could be sent to another app. I learned (fortunately before I made a purchase) that this is not the case. We need to wait till the software for the drive that allows Send To is accessible or until other drives offer the Send to option with accessible software if we want to, as I do, grab books from my computer and put them in Voice Dream Reader. Let's keep our fingers crossed. For those of us who want to use the drive to play material in its proprietary app, some of these drives are good solutions now. Terrie Terlau -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chip Orange Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 7:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes for windows and screen readers Yes, I agree Rus, I think these drives, if they are accessible and will handle all file types, are far superior. The increased cost is rather small (I mean, suppose they are $40 instead of $20 for a standard drive of some given size, $20 isn't so much that it makes it impossible). Chip -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 10:23 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes for windows and screen readers >From what I understand, with using dropbox, you first have to upload the file to the cloud. Then you would use your Ios device to download the file from the cloud. I have a number of zip files that are 600mb in size. This would take a while to upload to dropbox. Using a flash drive, the transfer would be a lot faster in my case. -----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 7:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes for windows and screen readers I have no idea which dual USB-Lightning flash drives have accessible apps since I have no plans or interest in buying one. Most of them are very expensive compared to just an equivalent USB drive of the same size and the limitation of only using the app doesn't get me very excited. Anyhow, as far as I can tell I can do anything these flash drives can do with Dropbox or OneDrive both of which I already have installed and use. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 6:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes for windows and screen readers Do you happen to know which ones are the most accessible with voiceover? The one I've been looking at is the Ibridge by Leef. The app for this flash drive has a open in option. I've been exchanging email with there tech support. They tell me that they hope to have this app accessible with voiceover very soon. When this happens, I'll be buying one. Then I can say vood buy to itunes file sharing! -----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 2:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes for windows and screen readers You can access whatever information is on the USB drive, but only via whatever app goes with the drive. You cannot, for example, put music on the drive and then get this music to show up in the music app or, for that matter, even copy it to the internal storage of your iPhone. Ringtones is another example where you either have to buy them from iTunes so they are available on the iPhone or you have to use iTunes to sync them to your phone. The thumb drives are really no different than Dropbox or OneDrive in that they are a way to access files stored on them by the app just as you can access information stored in Dropbox or OneDrive with the Dropbox or OneDrive app. Only difference is that with Dropbox or OneDrive the files are in the cloud and with the USB drives they are physically on the drive which you then have to plug into your Lightning port. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chip Orange Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 12:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes for windows and screen readers What about those new thumb drives which are supposed to work on both I devices and Windows devices? Can be sure of any of their names (one may have been Istick), but I thought I read they were supposed to do exactly this (with the help of an app which came supplied on the thumb drive). Anyone know anything about these as an Itunes sync replacement? Thanks, Chip -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 9:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iTunes for windows and screen readers I just wished there was a good third party program to make it easy to transfer content to your ios device. Itunes 12 is much harder to use than itunes 11 was. -----Original Message----- From: Cristóbal Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iTunes for windows and screen readers Accessible and easy to use aren't necessarily the same thing. iTunes is accessible, but it can be clunky to get around in. Even sighted folks like to complain about iTunes. I'm a Jaws uer and the times i have to interact with iTunes, I can, but my preference is to do as much as I can on the phone. I will say, it is a good app for organizing your media library at the very least. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:38 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: iTunes for windows and screen readers I have never used iTunes for windows, because I have a Mac. However, if friend of mine was just told by an Apple accessibility senior representative that window eyes works with iTunes for windows and is the only screen reader which Apple says does that. I know that a few years ago, and it literally has been years, GW micro had been touting this fact. But I know a lot of changes have happened with both window eyes and iTunes since then I suspect that this is the case of apple not keeping their propaganda, I mean their publication, up-to-date. So for you who use Windows version of iTunes and screen readers two questions. One, Is it true, WE users, that iTunes works perfectly well with the latest version of window eyes? And two, what about other screen readers? Do any work well? Mary Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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