Hi John, I was, hence the reason why I'm asking, what they're on about? I'm not asking for a feature request, I'm asking for what has broke, fix it.
Sent from an iPad Air > On 1 Nov 2016, at 3:52 pm, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Feature request? Aren’t you describing the expected behavior of VoiceOver > with the two finger swipe gesture? > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > >> On Nov 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> First, let me recompose myself. Second, sorry for the strong language. >> Third, just how the hell is this a feature request? Please please, everyone, >> write them. This iPad is happy on IOS9, but still. 4) this reminds me of >> when trying to write humanware tech support, they were just as bad. And >> these make it out so that you don't reply. They used to be better, I'm sure. >> Anyway, here it comes. >> >> >> >> >> Sent from an iPad Air >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Apple Accessibility <accessibil...@apple.com> >>> Date: 1 November 2016 at 3:00:11 pm GMT >>> To: brajmund2...@gmail.com >>> Subject: Re: IOS10 bug report, voice over loses focus while reading email >>> (iPad only); Follow-up: 651292328 >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Thank you for your email and the included steps to observe the behavior. We >>> appreciate the feedback and will submit this to the appropriate group as a >>> feature request. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Apple Accessibility >>> >>>> On October 27, 2016 at 18:48:47 PM GMT, brajmund2...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Ever since IOS10 has been released for any version, and any sized iPad, >>>> (it works on all, mini, air, pro, doesn't matter) for a voiceover user, >>>> email is reckless. IT's so horribly screwed, that I had to spend a day >>>> downgrading, so that I only have to put up with the bug, where voiceover >>>> dies miserably after sending an email. This has cost my iMessages to be >>>> lost since December of this year, and my entire facetime history. Needless >>>> to say, not pleased at all. I have also sent a couple of bug reports >>>> during the beta cycle, but it never got rectified. Having said that, here >>>> are some, what I hope easy enough steps to reproduce, and fix at last, so >>>> that I don't akeep having to reject the update. >>>> 1) Get an iPad, preferably running a public version, so that whoever >>>> reproduces this, if they do at all, they can't just say that it doesn't >>>> work in the beta. >>>> 2) Have an active email account set up, so there's actually something to >>>> read. (I can easily get someone to supply an audio demonstration). >>>> 3) Turn on voice over. >>>> 4) Open the email, find an email, and double tap on it. '5) Flick up or >>>> down with 2 fingers, honestly, it doesn't matter, they both are just as >>>> big of a failure. >>>> 6) You will hear: mail boxes back button, if doing a 2 finger flick up. If >>>> down, you will hear compose, filter messages, in other words, everything >>>> but the actual text of the message. On the phone, or IOS9, the iPad was >>>> smart enough to filter what is needed to be read. Unfortunately, it seems >>>> we're going backwards, not forward. So if you try an iPad, on anything but >>>> a version of IOS10, or any iPhone, any version, if flicking down, it will >>>> read from the cursor to the end. So if the message had 20 words, and the >>>> cursor was on the 5th, it would read the remaining 15 words. If you >>>> flicked up with 2 fingers, it read all 20 words. In other words, it only >>>> read the text of the message, not the controls. And I know that this is >>>> not a design, as the phone would also be doing it in that case, and since >>>> it doesn't, that leaves me to believe that this is a bug. Please let me >>>> know if you need any additional details. >>>> >>>> Sent from a Braille Sense >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - >> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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