Hi, Just a quick note, it happens with thread view, so in answer to that, no, it doesn't happen because of the threading. As for the 2 finger swipe down, that didn't work for me, when I tried.
Sent from a Braille Sense ----- Original Message ----- From: Debby <dm-h...@comcast.net> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 8:15 pm Subject: RE: IOS10 bug report, voice over loses focus while reading email (iPad only); Follow-up: 651292328 > > > I have an iPad Air 2. I like the idea of what Apple did with the mail in > OS10, but the execution is weird. I miss the two-finger swipe up for reading. > Is it possible that it is gone because of the way the messages are threaded? > Also, When I open a message it will start reading, but stop when it gets to a > break. Then I have to find the beginning of the message and do a two-finger > swipe down. Reading mail on my iPad is definitely not comfortable and takes > more time. > > Also, a lot of times when I open a thread focus goes to the last message in > the thread instead of the first. For instance, if a thread has 12 messages, I > will hear message "12 of 12. Instead of "1 of 12." So I either have to swipe > back through the messages to get to the top or go to the status bar and do a > two-finger double tap. Again more time consumption. > > Yes, I do need to send a note to Apple Accessibility. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Kimber Gardner > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 3:29 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: IOS10 bug report, voice over loses focus while reading email > (iPad only); Follow-up: 651292328 > > I've reported this iOS10 bug with every beta release. I no longer read mail > on my iPad because of it. > > On 11/1/16, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi John, > > Please do try it, as we say, IOS10 broke the expected feature. > > > > > > > > Sent from a Braille Sense > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > > Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 5:08 pm > > Subject: Re: IOS10 bug report, voice over loses focus while reading > > email (iPad only); Follow-up: 651292328 > > > >> > >> > >> Yes, my point is they are saying, feature request, but it's expected > >> behavior to have the message read. I will have to try it on my iPad > >> when I am back in the office. > >> > >> > >> Take Care > >> > >> John D. Panarese > >> Director > >> Mac for the Blind > >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 > >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com > >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > >> > >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION > >> > >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > >> > >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi John, > >> > In a word, no. On iOS 9, with an iPhone or an iPad, you could open > >> > an email and do a two finger swipe up. The result? The body of the > >> > message is red.. In iOS 10, including with the beta before the > >> > final release, the result for the iPhone is the same. The result > >> > for the iPad is as described in the email thatRajmund sent. This is > >> > clear and simply a regression, and Apple should fix it as a bug, > >> > not market down as a feature request. I too reported on this > >> > regression during the beta cycle and after the first public release > >> > to know avail. I have verified this behavior on three iPads, my own > >> > mini two, a friend's mini two, and my husbands iPad Air. My friend > >> > and my husband are not regular voiceover users, but turning on > >> > voiceover and doing the steps as outlined results in the behavior > >> > described. This should be easy to duplicate, and they need to fix > >> > it. I basically don't use my iPad for mail anymore because of this. > >> > > >> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone > >> > > >> > On Nov 1, 2016, at 8:52 AM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com > >> > <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Feature request? Aren't you describing the expected behavior of > >> >> VoiceOver with the two finger swipe gesture? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Take Care > >> >> > >> >> John D. Panarese > >> >> Director > >> >> Mac for the Blind > >> >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 > >> >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> > >> >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > >> >> <http://www.macfortheblind.com/> > >> >> > >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION > >> >> > >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > >> >> > >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> On Nov 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com > >> >>> <mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi, > >> >>> First, let me recompose myself. Second, sorry for the strong language. > >> >>> Third, just how the hell is this a feature request? Please > >> >>> please, everyone, write them. This iPad is happy on IOS9, but > >> >>> still. 4) this reminds me of when trying to write humanware tech > >> >>> support, they were just as bad. And these make it out so that you > >> >>> don't reply. They used to be better, I'm sure. Anyway, here it comes.. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Sent from an iPad Air > >> >>> > >> >>> Begin forwarded message: > >> >>> > >> >>>> From: Apple Accessibility <accessibil...@apple.com > >> >>>> <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com>> > >> >>>> Date: 1 November 2016 at 3:00:11 pm GMT > >> >>>> To: brajmund2...@gmail.com <mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com> > >> >>>> Subject: Re: IOS10 bug report, voice over loses focus while > >> >>>> reading email (iPad only); Follow-up: 651292328 > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Hello, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Thank you for your email and the included steps to observe the > >> >>>> behavior. We appreciate the feedback and will submit this to the > >> >>>> appropriate group as a feature request. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Sincerely, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Apple Accessibility > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On October 27, 2016 at 18:48:47 PM GMT, brajmund2...@gmail.com > >> >>>> <mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Hi, > >> >>>>> Ever since IOS10 has been released for any version, and any > >> >>>>> sized iPad, (it works on all, mini, air, pro, doesn't matter) > >> >>>>> for a voiceover user, email is reckless. IT's so horribly > >> >>>>> screwed, that I had to spend a day downgrading, so that I only > >> >>>>> have to put up with the bug, where voiceover dies miserably > >> >>>>> after sending an email. This has cost my iMessages to be lost > >> >>>>> since December of this year, and my entire facetime history. > >> >>>>> Needless to say, not pleased at all. I have also sent a couple > >> >>>>> of bug reports during the beta cycle, but it never got > >> >>>>> rectified. Having said that, here are some, what I hope easy > >> >>>>> enough steps to reproduce, and fix at last, so that I don't akeep > >> >>>>> having to reject the update. > >> >>>>> 1) Get an iPad, preferably running a public version, so that > >> >>>>> whoever reproduces this, if they do at all, they can't just say > >> >>>>> that it doesn't work in the beta. > >> >>>>> 2) Have an active email account set up, so there's actually > >> >>>>> something to read. (I can easily get someone to supply an audio > >> >>>>> demonstration). > >> >>>>> 3) Turn on voice over. > >> >>>>> 4) Open the email, find an email, and double tap on it. '5) > >> >>>>> Flick up or down with 2 fingers, honestly, it doesn't matter, > >> >>>>> they both are just as big of a failure. > >> >>>>> 6) You will hear: mail boxes back button, if doing a 2 finger > >> >>>>> flick up. If down, you will hear compose, filter messages, in > >> >>>>> other words, everything but the actual text of the message. On > >> >>>>> the phone, or IOS9, the iPad was smart enough to filter what is > >> >>>>> needed to be read. > >> >>>>> Unfortunately, it seems we're going backwards, not forward. So > >> >>>>> if you try an iPad, on anything but a version of IOS10, or any > >> >>>>> iPhone, any version, if flicking down, it will read from the > >> >>>>> cursor to the end. So if the message had 20 words, and the > >> >>>>> cursor was on the 5th, it would read the remaining 15 words. If > >> >>>>> you flicked up with 2 fingers, it read all 20 words. In other > >> >>>>> words, it only read the text of the message, not the controls. > >> >>>>> And I know that this is not a design, as the phone would also > >> >>>>> be doing it in that case, and since it doesn't, that leaves me > >> >>>>> to believe that this is a bug. 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I will have to try it on > >> my iPad when I am back in the office. > >> > >> > >> > >> Take Care > >> > >> > >> John D. Panarese > >> Director > >> Mac for the Blind > >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 > >> Email, j...@macfortheblind..com > >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > >> > >> > >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION > >> > >> > >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > >> > >> > >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hi John, > >> In a word, no. On iOS 9, with an iPhone or an iPad, you could open an > >> email and do a two finger swipe up. The result? The body of the > >> message is red. In iOS 10, including with the beta before the final > >> release, the result for the iPhone is the same. The result for the > >> iPad is as described in the email thatRajmund sent. This is clear and > >> simply a regression, and Apple should fix it as a bug, not market > >> down as a feature request. I too reported on this regression during > >> the beta cycle and after the first public release to know avail. I > >> have verified this behavior on three iPads, my own mini two, a > >> friend's mini two, and my husbands iPad Air. My friend and my husband > >> are not regular voiceover users, but turning on voiceover and doing > >> the steps as outlined results in the behavior described. This should > >> be easy to duplicate, and they need to fix it. I basically don't use my > >> iPad for mail anymore because of this. > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Nov 1, 2016, at 8:52 AM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Feature request? Aren't you describing the expected behavior of > >> VoiceOver with the two finger swipe gesture? > >> > >> > >> > >> Take Care > >> > >> > >> John D. Panarese > >> Director > >> Mac for the Blind > >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 > >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com > >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > >> > >> > >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION > >> > >> > >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > >> > >> > >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Nov 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hi, > >> First, let me recompose myself. Second, sorry for the strong language. > >> Third, just how the hell is this a feature request? Please please, > >> everyone, write them. This iPad is happy on IOS9, but still. 4) this > >> reminds me of when trying to write humanware tech support, they were > >> just as bad. And these make it out so that you don't reply. They used > >> to be better, I'm sure. Anyway, here it comes. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from an iPad Air > >> > >> Begin forwarded message: > >> > >> > >> From: Apple Accessibility <accessibil...@apple.com> > >> Date: 1 November 2016 at 3:00:11 pm GMT > >> To: brajmund2...@gmail.com > >> Subject: Re: IOS10 bug report, voice over loses focus while reading > >> email (iPad only); Follow-up: 651292328 > >> > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> > >> Thank you for your email and the included steps to observe the behavior. > >> We appreciate the feedback and will submit this to the appropriate > >> group as a feature request. > >> > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> > >> > >> Apple Accessibility > >> > >> > >> On October 27, 2016 at 18:48:47 PM GMT, brajmund2...@gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hi, > >> Ever since IOS10 has been released for any version, and any sized > >> iPad, (it works on all, mini, air, pro, doesn't matter) for a > >> voiceover user, email is reckless. IT's so horribly screwed, that I > >> had to spend a day downgrading, so that I only have to put up with > >> the bug, where voiceover dies miserably after sending an email. This > >> has cost my iMessages to be lost since December of this year, and my > >> entire facetime history. Needless to say, not pleased at all. I have > >> also sent a couple of bug reports during the beta cycle, but it never > >> got rectified. Having said that, here are some, what I hope easy > >> enough steps to reproduce, and fix at last, so that I don't akeep having > >> to reject the update. > >> 1) Get an iPad, preferably running a public version, so that whoever > >> reproduces this, if they do at all, they can't just say that it > >> doesn't work in the beta. > >> 2) Have an active email account set up, so there's actually something > >> to read. (I can easily get someone to supply an audio demonstration). > >> 3) Turn on voice over. > >> 4) Open the email, find an email, and double tap on it. '5) Flick up > >> or down with 2 fingers, honestly, it doesn't matter, they both are > >> just as big of a failure. > >> 6) You will hear: mail boxes back button, if doing a 2 finger flick > >> up. If down, you will hear compose, filter messages, in other words, > >> everything but the actual text of the message. On the phone, or IOS9, > >> the iPad was smart enough to filter what is needed to be read. > >> Unfortunately, it seems we're going backwards, not forward. So if you > >> try an iPad, on anything but a version of IOS10, or any iPhone, any > >> version, if flicking down, it will read from the cursor to the end. > >> So if the message had 20 words, and the cursor was on the 5th, it > >> would read the remaining 15 words. If you flicked up with 2 fingers, > >> it read all 20 words. In other words, it only read the text of the > >> message, not the controls. And I know that this is not a design, as > >> the phone would also be doing it in that case, and since it doesn't, > >> that leaves me to believe that this is a bug. 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