I called a couple times just to check my order was right even though
on the T-mobile page it was. I am not buying my device out right
though. Going to pay the 45 down plus the sales tax. Then pay the
watch off in 3 or so months. Maybe get apple on the phone if you can't
get threw to T-Mobile.

On 9/17/17, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My problem isn't with where you live, it's when you can't communicate well
> enough with someone who doesn't speak your language, which I don't, so that
> the communications just don't get where they need to be. And no, you don't
> pick a carrier when you do the ordering process with Apple. I got all the
> way to having the stuff in my shopping bag, so that the next step would've
> been to pay. So no carrier selection. I should add that I was not rude or
> nasty to the representative. We just were not communicating. She seemed to
> say one thing, and then when I would repeat back what I understood her 12
> said, the story changed and changed back. So, I think we have a language
> issue, something that I have not experienced with US based representatives.
> That isn't to say that they're all geniuses. I'm not a genius. But I do like
> to be able to have a good feeling that the communications between me and the
> representative have been 100% clear. That doesn't mean you can't get wrong
> info, it just takes the language issue out of the equation.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 17, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mary,
>>
>> Have you tried ordering from Apple to see if at some point during the
>> process it will ask you to pick a carrier? No harm in giving it a try, you
>> can always stop before finalizing the order.
>> As for overseas support, no company will get rid of it because here in
>> North America they have to pay their support agents 10 times as much.
>> Having said this I would like to defend the overseas support agents, first
>> of all, they can only be as good as the training they get and secondly I
>> have had some of them who were awesome and I have dealt with north
>> american based support where they had no clue, either. Apple is one such
>> example, the few times I called Apple Accessible it was pretty good, but I
>> have called the general sales line and dealt with people who were in the
>> US who had absolutely no clue whatsoever what I or they for that matter
>> were talking about.
>> My wife is from the Philippines and her sister works for a call centre now
>> and over there that is almost akin to being a lawyer or doctor here, if
>> you end up working at a factory 6 days a week for $8 a day assemblind the
>> items we all want cheap it's a lot worse, my wife has done it when she was
>> younger so I do know a bit what I am talking about and hopefully you all
>> keep this in mind the next time before you feel like giving one of these
>> people a hard time; it's not their fault they were born there or that our
>> wealthy corporations go there for cheap labour so our welathy society can
>> buy a $20 bluetooth headset on Amazon.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:38 PM
>> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my
>> carrier
>>
>> I suppose this might not be on topic, but it is about the new watch, so
>> maybe. I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to have to go through
>> T-Mobile, or if there is any advantage in so doing, versus ordering
>> straight from Apple. Ordering from Apple looks easy right from my phone. I
>> called T-Mobile today, which was stupid I suppose, because I got one of
>> those folks overseas, and we clearly were not communicating well. She told
>> me one thing and then seem to contradict herself twice, so I hung up and I
>> guess I will call them again tomorrow. I would just assume do it through
>> Apple and get AppleCare, but I want to make sure I would get the three
>> month free trial at Cetera. And there might be other advantages. Has
>> anyone ordered the watch straight from Apple? And do you understand any
>> differences between going that way or going through your carrier? I hope
>> when I call T-Mobile tomorrow I get somebody in the US. I had pretty good
>> luck with that before, but last week, I got another one of those overseas
>> people who was clueless, screwed up an order changing my data plan, and I
>> had to call back and get tech-support from the United States, thank God. I
>> thought T-Mobile was getting rid of their overseas support folks.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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