The fact that their native language that they speak, whatever it is, is better 
than mine, is totally irrelevant. I don't live there, I don't need the language 
they speak. I need them to speak the language I speak. And if they can't, there 
is a problem. That's all I'm saying. I certainly would not be able to do that 
job in a second language except for perhaps Russian, and we don't have any call 
centers in Russia. Go figure so I will never get a chance to make some Russian 
call center representatives life easier by using their language instead of mine.
Mary


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> On Sep 17, 2017, at 2:11 PM, Cristóbal <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> That and I would venture to guess that their English is better than anyone's  
> Tagalog or Spanish or Hindi who may be calling in. I work in the interpreting 
> field and can attest as to how being able to dominate a second language to 
> the point where you can find and hold down gainful employment and even more 
> so  in such a specialized field to be no small achievement.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:48 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my 
> carrier
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> Have you tried ordering from Apple to see if at some point during the process 
> it will ask you to pick a carrier? No harm in giving it a try, you can always 
> stop before finalizing the order.
> As for overseas support, no company will get rid of it because here in North 
> America they have to pay their support agents 10 times as much. Having said 
> this I would like to defend the overseas support agents, first of all, they 
> can only be as good as the training they get and secondly I have had some of 
> them who were awesome and I have dealt with north american based support 
> where they had no clue, either. Apple is one such example, the few times I 
> called Apple Accessible it was pretty good, but I have called the general 
> sales line and dealt with people who were in the US who had absolutely no 
> clue whatsoever what I or they for that matter were talking about.
> My wife is from the Philippines and her sister works for a call centre now 
> and over there that is almost akin to being a lawyer or doctor here, if you 
> end up working at a factory 6 days a week for $8 a day assemblind the items 
> we all want cheap it's a lot worse, my wife has done it when she was younger 
> so I do know a bit what I am talking about and hopefully you all keep this in 
> mind the next time before you feel like giving one of these people a hard 
> time; it's not their fault they were born there or that our wealthy 
> corporations go there for cheap labour so our welathy society can buy a $20 
> bluetooth headset on Amazon.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:38 PM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my carrier
> 
> I suppose this might not be on topic, but it is about the new watch, so 
> maybe. I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to have to go through T-Mobile, 
> or if there is any advantage in so doing, versus ordering straight from 
> Apple. Ordering from Apple looks easy right from my phone. I called T-Mobile 
> today, which was stupid I suppose, because I got one of those folks overseas, 
> and we clearly were not communicating well. She told me one thing and then 
> seem to contradict herself twice, so I hung up and I guess I will call them 
> again tomorrow. I would just assume do it through Apple and get AppleCare, 
> but I want to make sure I would get the three month free trial at Cetera. And 
> there might be other advantages. Has anyone ordered the watch straight from 
> Apple? And do you understand any differences between going that way or going 
> through your carrier? I hope when I call T-Mobile tomorrow I get somebody in 
> the US. I had pretty good luck with that before, but last week, I got another 
> one of those overseas people who was clueless, screwed up an order changing 
> my data plan, and I had to call back and get tech-support from the United 
> States, thank God. I thought T-Mobile was getting rid of their overseas 
> support folks. 
> 
> 
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