hi Sieghard I totally agree about your recommanded iTunes version, this version has also the advantage of having an appstore on board. But are we sure making backups with this version is secure? I ask this because I noticed myself that for example supposing you want to update your software over iTunes, this can nolonger be done for ios12 on this version. One day after ios12 came out and I wanted to test whether to update my Phone via iTunes or over the air, my iTunes 12.6.3 told me that my software was uptodate which certainly was not the case. Regards Davy
2018-10-25 9:41 GMT+02:00, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca>: > Hi Lisa, > > Don't install the Windows app store version, I made that mistake once and > while it is supposed to be more or less the same I found it was not. In > fact, I would recommend you get this enterprise version of iTunes or > whatever they call it, it is I think version 12.6.3. > Also, you don't necessarily need iTunes to do a full restore. If you have an > iCloud backup you can go to Settings > General > Reset and do it from > there. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Lisa > Belville > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:35 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12 > > Yes, I'm working up the courage to do this. <sigh> I despise iTunes > and don't even have it installed on this machine. I went looking for it > at Apple.com and they sent me to the Microsoft app store. I'm still not > sure if that's the version I should install. > > > Also, if I do this, can I do it without sighted help? > > > I'm not as concerned with data or apps because I have the important > information backed up to iCloud and I can re-install apps once the > restore is done. > > > It's just the part about losing speech and not getting the phone back > that bothers me. > > > Lisa > > > Lisa Belville > missktlab1...@frontier.com > > On 10/24/2018 10:29 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> Hi Lisa, >> >> I know Mario had the same problem with his SE and in the end he did a >> complete reset and set up as a new device and he then posted everything >> was fine. I know this can be a time consuming task depending on how many >> apps you use and how much other content is on your device, but there are >> times when it's the only really good solution. In the end you have to >> decide if it's worth spending the time to do this. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Lisa Belville >> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 8:26 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12 >> >> Hi, Sieghard. >> >> >> Yes, actually, I've reset network settings at least twice since the 12.x >> upgrade. >> >> >> generally, I'd tell people to go ahead and upgrade their phones, since >> the issue with battery drainage is a rare one. At this point I'm a bit >> concerned, not actively worried. I'm not a huge traveler beyond my home >> area, and I have a small external battery pack I carry with me, so the >> phone can stay charged if I need it to. I'm not getting a battery case >> because I'm upgrading to a newer and most likely larger sized device >> next year. So for now, until I can get a definitive answer, I can keep >> my phone charged and still enjoy iOS 12 without too many worries. >> >> >> And no, the battery issue is the only one I've noticed. Siri works fine >> for me as do the other gestures some folks have difficulty with. >> >> >> Lisa Belville >> >> missktlab1...@frontier.com >> >> On 10/24/2018 10:05 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> Hi Davy, >>> >>> You really should read people's messages more carefully, Lisa has in fact >>> updated and then posted her message that she felt the phone used too much >>> battery, she wrote this: >>> >>> Hi, all. I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE. I've had iOS 12 for >>> over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues. >>> >>> Rob I think was the one who then posted that he was still on 10.3.3 and >>> glad he hadn't updated yet. Is such a message useful, maybe not, but your >>> reply is pretty judgemental and it's not useful, either. It is >>> everybody's choice whether they want to update or not, but telling >>> somebody to just update and stop argueing about battery when in fact she >>> has updated and is simply stating a fact is rude. >>> I do agree that iOS 12 is much better than iOS 10 ever was and I also >>> replied to Rob telling him that and listing a few features which I think >>> make iOS 12 pretty compelling. >>> As for lisa's battery drain issue it is of course something which she >>> needs to address if she had better battery life before. I doubt she >>> expects her phone to stay at 100% as somebody else suggested, but if a >>> phone is locked and on Do Not Disturb and nothing else is going on I >>> agree that battery drain at best should be minimal. She says her phone >>> drained 8% in 6 or 7 hours with no useage whatsoever, I actually don't >>> think that is outrageous although I also think it's maybe more than it >>> should be since I would say in the perfect world this should be maybe 3% >>> or 4%. >>> Lisa, did you ever try the Reset Network Settings? I also was surprised >>> by something else and that is that at one point a few weeks ago I plugged >>> in my phone at night and then turned it off for some reason. I forgot to >>> turn it on until the next morning and when I then turned it on and >>> unplugged it I found my battery seemed to last longer than before. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>> Davy Cuppens >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:16 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12 >>> >>> Hi Lisa >>> The statement you tell the list not yet having done the update to >>> ios12.0.1 is really useless even for yourselves. >>> maybe your issues are the fact that you are still using ios10.3.3 >>> while most apps have been updated to the needs for ios12.0.1. I don't >>> know whetehr you are a braille user or not but the most sluggiest and >>> worst braille version of ios at all is ios10.3. The most smooth and >>> snappiest version of all also in braille mode is ios12. So please >>> update your devices Lisa and stop arguing about your battery drainings >>> which very lokely are caused by youw own anxiety to update. >>> Regards >>> Davy >>> >>> 2018-10-24 13:46 GMT+02:00, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>: >>>> Are you expecting it to stay at 100% all day? Even though you aren’t >>>> using >>>> it it is still running on battery >>>> >>>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for >>>> you! *** >>>> >>>> From: Lisa Belville >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:31 AM >>>> To: V I Phone >>>> Subject: Battery still an issue with iPhone SE and iOS 12 >>>> >>>> Hi, all. I'm using an eighteen month old iPhone SE. I've had iOS 12 >>>> for over a month and I'm still plagued by battery issues. >>>> >>>> >>>> I can unplug my phone once it's charged to 100% and leave it alone for >>>> six or seven hours and my battery will be at around 92% with no apps >>>> running, the phone being locked and set to Do Not Disturb. >>>> >>>> I always have four Verizon bars and three wifi bars, so the phone isn't >>>> even having difficulty finding a signal on either network. This battery >>>> drain happens while the phone is unplugged and sitting on my nightstand >>>> in the same room as the wifi router and a window, so there again, it's >>>> not having issues staying connected. >>>> >>>> Here's what I've tried so far to resolve the issue: Screen time is >>>> off, >>>> Location services are off, Auto brightness is off, raise to wake is >>>> off, >>>> background app refresh is off, Email and other push notifications have >>>> been disabled, network settings have been reset at least twice. I've >>>> also rebooted the phone with the power/home button combo. Last week I >>>> tried charging it to 100, shutting the phone down completely, and >>>> keeping it plugged into the charger for about eight hours. >>>> >>>> I didn't have these issues before upgrading from iOS 10 to 12. Before >>>> the upgrade I noticed the biggest battery drain using YouTube or other >>>> apps where the phone had to be unlocked while in use, but that was >>>> expected. >>>> >>>> >>>> My only thought now is to do the reset where I need to restore the >>>> phone >>>> as a new device. >>>> >>>> >>>> Is there anything else I can do to resolve the issue? Also, if I do >>>> the >>>> restore, can I do this using iTunes, my PC and no working eyeballs? >>>> >>>> >>>> Other than the battery issues, I'm not having any difficulty with my >>>> phone. And, as I said, I wasn't having these issues before the >>>> upgrade. >>>> >>>> >>>> TIA for thoughts. >>>> >>>> >>>> Lisa >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Lisa Belville >>>> missktlab1...@frontier.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if >>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or >>>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>> mk...@ucla.edu. 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