For as much as I complained about VO dropping out after phone/FaceTime calls, I'm really glad I did the upgrade to the IOS13. I got a call that went to voicemail this morning that was a SSA scam that said my number would be suspended due to fraudulent activity, that I would be arrested, and to kindly press 1 (I'm not kidding) for more information. I was able to use the voicemail recording and the info VO provided to give an accurate account of the call to the FTC when I filed my complaint with them after the call came in.
Yay, Apple. Do the upgrade. Just have a pair of wired earbuds handy to get VO back if it kicks out after a call. I hung up just a few minutes ago from a call (without being plugged in), and lost speech but still had sound--I could hear the clicks as I swiped right and left. I grabbed my wired earbuds, plugged in, and VO was back. HTH, Dani On 10/10/19, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: > Hello Angie and Everyone, > > You know, I must say that while I was planning on waiting for a later > version of iOS 13.x to be released, before updating my 8 Plus, I am > definitely glad that I went ahead and took the proverbial plunge. This is > to say that I have gained much more than I lost. > > Now keep in mind that I have yet to experience any loss of VoiceOver under > any circumstances. Also, while I do read some email messages via iPhone, I > read most of my emails on either my Windows PC or my Mac so cannot speak to > any problems with the native iOS Mail app. > > I absolutely love the new system-wide hap tic VoiceOver feedback feature. I > think the latest versions of Maps is incredible, especially the new E.T.A > feature. However, what I like most about iOS 13.x and by the same token, > iPad OS 13 is the fact that now, as it was many, many moons ago, all of my > ripped DVD videos play perfectly on all of my Apple devices. This was > certainly not the case in iOS 12 and earlier. I am glad that Apple > relinquished its death grip on the types of videos it would and would not > allow to be played on Apple devices, in the hope of getting customers to > purchase / rent videos from the iTunes Store. > > Oh, one more thing, while I am a heavy user of Braille using the original > Focus 40 Blue, as yet, I have not attempted to read any lengthy pieces on my > Braille display so cannot speak to any issues regarding Braille displays. > > I can tell you, however, that while I adore the new dark mode on my iPad > Pro, I have elected not to engage this new feature on my 8 Plus. Why? > Well, the display seems to be too dark for my taste on the smaller display > and I find it easier to toggle Invert Display on and off, as needed with the > Home button. > > On the iPhone 11, however, given that there is no longer a Home button, I do > engage Dark mode, using the side button to Toggle VoiceOver on and off, as > needed. As yet, I have not experienced a loss of VoiceOver before, during, > or after calls, of any kind. > > I am of the opinion that iOS 12 with Watch OS 5 work much better, together, > than iOS 13 with Watch OS 6, especially where Bluetooth audio switching is > concerned; at least, this has been my experience so far. > > Still, all of my "must-have" apps work as expected and I have yet to > encounter any show-stoppers in iOS 13.x, so far. > > So, if you have not yet updated to iOS 13.x yet, wait a little longer before > doing so but if you're ready to jump in and begin sending Apple, along with > third-party developers, bug reports as you encounter them, go ahead and make > the leap as we can use all of the proverbial voices we can get in order to > get the attention of all of the developers to resolve various iOS 13.x > issues. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Angie Nutt > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:36 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question > > The only thing stopping me from upgrading is the losing sound when ending a > call thing; would hate that to happen when out alone. Otherwise I’m looking > forward to getting my hands on iOS 13 > > All the best > Angie > > >> On 9 Oct 2019, at 18:58, Louise Johnson <herclou...@shaw.ca> wrote: >> >> Hi I also am waiting to update. Yes there are ones of you who are >> doing it and sharing the bugs with Apple and I thank you for that. I >> just not a person who wants any problems only a few years in and just >> want tech to work all the time. Louise and princess Kiara >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson >> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:00 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question >> >> My Iphone 8 is running 12.41 and I'm not upgrading until some of these >> major bugs are getting fixed. I only had one reminder about the update >> yesterday. I also found remind me later and just for referrence, don't >> enter in your passcode if you're prompted for it. >> My iPhone 8 is working just fine, and I see no need to update at this >> time. I'm so glad I got on this list so I can be warned about things like >> major bugs and so on. Granted, I don't really use my phone to check >> email, but I really don't like the thought of voiceover shutting down >> after a phone call. Until that is fixed for sure, I'm not upgrading. I'd >> recommend not to update just yet. A lot of my friends are also waiting to >> update as well. >> >> On 10/9/19, Susie Stageberg <sstagebe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Good morning all. >>> >>> >>> >>> My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped >>> on "later" and then "disagree", I hopes this would make it leave me >>> alone for a while. From reading all the posts on this list (and >>> elsewhere) about people having a hard time with this upgrade, it >>> occurred to me that it might be a good idea to hold off until they >>> get some of this stuff fixed. I am running along very nicely with >>> 12.2 and I'm one of those who does not need the latest and greatest >>> just because it's the latest and greatest. >>> >>> >>> >>> Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I >>> will get a better product when I do upgrade? 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