Hi,

Reinstalling is not a bad idea. Let us know if this fixes the problem. If not, 
I will try to outline steps for using plaintext in another post.

All the best,

Ioana

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On Oct 27, 2012, at 4:29 AM, Rob Harris <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I only want to use it!  Like I said, I took its advice and double tapped on 
> things,  which didn't respond.  if an edit field you double tap on doesn't 
> open for you to edit,  it's not a lot of good.
> 
> That's about it;  the ehlp didn't say any more - tap this, double tap the 
> other - it's frustrating until we know  what commands it is sharing with VO 
> and how you get around it.  I just want to know how existing users make it 
> work?
> 
> RobH.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ioana Gandrabur" <igandra...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 11:58 PM
> Subject: Re: PlainText app?
> 
> 
> Hi. It is hard for me to give you more instructions without knowing what you 
> want to do. If you have any clear questions feel free to ask on or off list 
> and I will be glad to help anyway I can.
> Best,
> 
> Ioana
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 26, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Rob Harris <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I've been fiddling with this and can't get it to do anything consistently
>> yet.  It says double-tap to do whatever;  and I double-tap,  a text input
>> field for example,  and it does nothing, still says double tap to edit. 
>> How
>> is this meant to be done. I know all manner of menus or functions are 
>> meant
>> to pop up,  and did it once,  but out of the blue when nowhere near what I
>> thought I was doing.
>> 
>> Any clarifications on this please?
>> 
>> Taa! R!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ioana Gandrabur" <igandra...@gmail.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 9:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: Notes question
>> 
>> 
>> HI,
>> 
>> I use plaintext for long documents. On iphone 4 it was getting slow after 
>> it
>> became longer. Have not tried on the 5.
>> I have not found a good way to find a specific spot in a file other than
>> arrowing with the keyboard. However, I found that it does remember where 
>> you
>> left the cursor even after exiting the app. Have not tested if it does so
>> with multiple files.
>> 
>> Hope this helps. I love the dropbox integration!
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Ioana
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 26, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Rob Harris <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> This is more or less my thing too.  If I open a lengthy file, I want to
>>> get
>>> to my place quickly and easily,  edit or modify quickly and easily,
>>> insert
>>> and import, or even export text to and from it;  sort of normal editing
>>> features we've been able to do for years, until we got  the pocket 
>>> device.
>>> 
>>> Anybody doing this like I describe?  Using the cmd-arrow keys for block
>>> marking would have mileage,  so would unix and wordstar concepts like
>>> block
>>> start and block end using ctrl-B and K respectively.  The Wordstar one 
>>> did
>>> try to be intuiative about it.
>>> 
>>> RobH.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Denny Schwab" <denny.sch...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 5:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Notes question
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I don't think it is a limitation of the Notes application.  This
>>> problem never happened before 6.0.
>>> 
>>> As far as what I want to do... I write stories and such in Notes.  I
>>> used Pages for a while, but got tired of dealing with the
>>> accessibility issues there.  I want to use something I can use ICloud
>>> to have on both my Mac and my IPhone.
>>> 
>>> On 10/26/12, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> yeah, I always think it's funny how people consider control+x and
>>>> control+v to be intuitive, but control+w and control+y to be
>>>> unintuitive, especially since many of those Unix editors were around
>>>> long before you had any editors in DOS or Windows. Don't confuse
>>>> familiarity with intuitiveness! :-) I personally always hate going back
>>>> to a DOS/Windows style editor after doing a lot of cutting and pasting
>>>> in Emacs!
>>>> 
>>>> On 26/10/12 09:51, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>>> Rob,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Don't be knocking' those good old Unix/Linux editors. :) There are a
>>>>> number of apps that might do what you want, but not sure what you want.
>>>>> :)
>>>>> Are you just looking to take notes or actually put together some
>>>>> documents? You have such an array of options I think it might help to
>>>>> know
>>>>> what options you are looking for. You have options such as Elements,
>>>>> which
>>>>> is an editor that uses DropBox. I am sure some will have a number of
>>>>> suggestions. You might also look at http://www.applevis.com and sort
>>>>> through the app directory.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 26, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Rob Harris <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> So you're probably right about the amount of text, so we want a real
>>>>>> text
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> editor so we can do this. Some of us do really write stuff! Pages is a
>>>>>> word
>>>>>> processor for tarting it up afterwards, or as you go even;  but  for
>>>>>> scribblers,  edit, or some of those  old DOS editors like Boxer and so
>>>>>> on,
>>>>>> would be ideal for this.
>>>>>> Let's not go down the Unix/Linux VI, ELVIS and all those, good when 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> used to them, but all those commands so counter-intuative.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> RobH, looking for suggestions or even recommendations.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Scott Howell" <scottn3...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 10:30 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Notes question
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suspect it is not VO. If that were the case it seems the problem
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> affect other apps such as iBooks etc. There is always a possibility
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> 10
>>>>>> pages of notes may be pushing some limit. Seems there is more
>>>>>> investigation
>>>>>> required. Of course I'm not sure the Notes app was ever intended to
>>>>>> handle
>>>>>> that much text. :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2012, at 3:58 AM, Rob Harris <bobs...@googlemail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think we don't know enough about how VO works and how big it's text
>>>>>>> buffer
>>>>>>> is from which it  does it's TTS.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It could be a design flaw we're only just coming to terms with.   I
>>>>>>> asked
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> question like this about large text files and getting to read them.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> R!
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Fred Olver" <goodfo...@charter.net>
>>>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:38 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Notes question
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't know how to resolve the problem, but it sounds like the 
>>>>>>> memory
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> getting used up while in the app.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Fred Olver
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Denny Schwab" <denny.sch...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:45 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Notes question
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> After upgrading to 6.0 I have been having an issue when writing in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Notes Application.  Usually starting around page 10 or so, I get an
>>>>>>>> issue that Voice Over is still saying the characters I have typed,
>>>>>>>> catching up to where I had finished.  When I get to page twenty or 
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> this problem gets worse, where it takes Voice Over quite a bit 
>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>> to catch up to where I stopped typing.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Has anyone else seen this issue?  Any ideas on how to resolve it?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Denny
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