Hi. It is hard for me to give you more instructions without knowing what you 
want to do. If you have any clear questions feel free to ask on or off list and 
I will be glad to help anyway I can. 
Best, 

Ioana 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 26, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Rob Harris <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I've been fiddling with this and can't get it to do anything consistently 
> yet.  It says double-tap to do whatever;  and I double-tap,  a text input 
> field for example,  and it does nothing, still says double tap to edit.  How 
> is this meant to be done. I know all manner of menus or functions are meant 
> to pop up,  and did it once,  but out of the blue when nowhere near what I 
> thought I was doing.
> 
> Any clarifications on this please?
> 
> Taa! R!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ioana Gandrabur" <igandra...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 9:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Notes question
> 
> 
> HI,
> 
> I use plaintext for long documents. On iphone 4 it was getting slow after it 
> became longer. Have not tried on the 5.
> I have not found a good way to find a specific spot in a file other than 
> arrowing with the keyboard. However, I found that it does remember where you 
> left the cursor even after exiting the app. Have not tested if it does so 
> with multiple files.
> 
> Hope this helps. I love the dropbox integration!
> 
> Best,
> 
> Ioana
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 26, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Rob Harris <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
>> This is more or less my thing too.  If I open a lengthy file, I want to 
>> get
>> to my place quickly and easily,  edit or modify quickly and easily, 
>> insert
>> and import, or even export text to and from it;  sort of normal editing
>> features we've been able to do for years, until we got  the pocket device.
>> 
>> Anybody doing this like I describe?  Using the cmd-arrow keys for block
>> marking would have mileage,  so would unix and wordstar concepts like 
>> block
>> start and block end using ctrl-B and K respectively.  The Wordstar one did
>> try to be intuiative about it.
>> 
>> RobH.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Denny Schwab" <denny.sch...@gmail.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 5:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Notes question
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I don't think it is a limitation of the Notes application.  This
>> problem never happened before 6.0.
>> 
>> As far as what I want to do... I write stories and such in Notes.  I
>> used Pages for a while, but got tired of dealing with the
>> accessibility issues there.  I want to use something I can use ICloud
>> to have on both my Mac and my IPhone.
>> 
>> On 10/26/12, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> yeah, I always think it's funny how people consider control+x and
>>> control+v to be intuitive, but control+w and control+y to be
>>> unintuitive, especially since many of those Unix editors were around
>>> long before you had any editors in DOS or Windows. Don't confuse
>>> familiarity with intuitiveness! :-) I personally always hate going back
>>> to a DOS/Windows style editor after doing a lot of cutting and pasting
>>> in Emacs!
>>> 
>>> On 26/10/12 09:51, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>> Rob,
>>>> 
>>>> Don't be knocking' those good old Unix/Linux editors. :) There are a
>>>> number of apps that might do what you want, but not sure what you want.
>>>> :)
>>>> Are you just looking to take notes or actually put together some
>>>> documents? You have such an array of options I think it might help to
>>>> know
>>>> what options you are looking for. You have options such as Elements,
>>>> which
>>>> is an editor that uses DropBox. I am sure some will have a number of
>>>> suggestions. You might also look at http://www.applevis.com and sort
>>>> through the app directory.
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 26, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Rob Harris <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> So you're probably right about the amount of text, so we want a real
>>>>> text
>>>>> 
>>>>> editor so we can do this. Some of us do really write stuff! Pages is a
>>>>> word
>>>>> processor for tarting it up afterwards, or as you go even;  but  for
>>>>> scribblers,  edit, or some of those  old DOS editors like Boxer and so
>>>>> on,
>>>>> would be ideal for this.
>>>>> Let's not go down the Unix/Linux VI, ELVIS and all those, good when you
>>>>> get
>>>>> used to them, but all those commands so counter-intuative.
>>>>> 
>>>>> RobH, looking for suggestions or even recommendations.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Scott Howell" <scottn3...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 10:30 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Notes question
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suspect it is not VO. If that were the case it seems the problem 
>>>>> would
>>>>> 
>>>>> affect other apps such as iBooks etc. There is always a possibility 
>>>>> that
>>>>> 10
>>>>> pages of notes may be pushing some limit. Seems there is more
>>>>> investigation
>>>>> required. Of course I'm not sure the Notes app was ever intended to
>>>>> handle
>>>>> that much text. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 26, 2012, at 3:58 AM, Rob Harris <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think we don't know enough about how VO works and how big it's text
>>>>>> buffer
>>>>>> is from which it  does it's TTS.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It could be a design flaw we're only just coming to terms with.   I
>>>>>> asked
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> question like this about large text files and getting to read them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> R!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Fred Olver" <goodfo...@charter.net>
>>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:38 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Notes question
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't know how to resolve the problem, but it sounds like the memory
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> getting used up while in the app.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Fred Olver
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Denny Schwab" <denny.sch...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:45 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Notes question
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> After upgrading to 6.0 I have been having an issue when writing in 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Notes Application.  Usually starting around page 10 or so, I get an
>>>>>>> issue that Voice Over is still saying the characters I have typed,
>>>>>>> catching up to where I had finished.  When I get to page twenty or so
>>>>>>> this problem gets worse, where it takes Voice Over quite a bit longer
>>>>>>> to catch up to where I stopped typing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Has anyone else seen this issue?  Any ideas on how to resolve it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Denny
>>>>>>> 
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