Hello Kelly, This is wonderful information. Thank you for sharing it with us.
By the way, I love, love, love Micro Center. It is one of the few remaining eclectic old-school brick & mortar computer and related technology stores left in the US. Mark -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 5:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark I bought a router a few weeks ago. I bought my old router in 2015 when I changed Internet services. It actually was free with the modem I purchased. In the last year, every few days, the router would stop working and need to be reset. Earlier this year, my ISP increased my speed to 250 MBPS a second and my router was not coming close to this speed. I searched online and learned the problem was very likely the router and not the modem. I searched on Google for the best router and chose the top ranked router from PC Magazine. This was the Asus Rt-AX86U Pro. I found my local Micro Center retailer had some in stock and traveled over there. I printed out the specification sheet from the Micro Center website and handed it to the sales nerd in the router area in a brick and mortar retail location the size of a grocery store. None of my routers were on the shelves. When he looked at my paper, he exclaimed “This is a good router!” the $269 router was so desirable by criminal shoplifters that it was in the back of the store in a secure storage area. He returned a few minutes later and brought the “good router” and me to a cashier where I bought the item. The signal is strong. The router is on the top floor of a Chicago bungalow and the signal is strong and reliable in the basement, backyard, and garage. I am glad to have paid more money for a solid and strong signal and performing product. Yes, it can be the center of a mesh network and guest channels are possible. Asus has an app and Web based router Interface that I used to set it up successfully, including choosing a network name and password. I would strongly recommend this router for a multi person household. Kelly On 7/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Same here, Mark. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of tai.toma...@gmail.com > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 8:09 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates > from Mark > > Counterpoint: despite plugging things into surge protectors, I have > had several routers and modems destroyed by lightning during > thunderstorms. I would not want to be replacing those routers and > modems out of pocket, so I gladly rent the equipment. Also, it is > easier to upgrade to newer equipment when you are renting it from the > cable company, and it only costs a few bucks a month for me. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > lenron brown > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 4:14 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates > from Mark > > It's a rip off, I plan on buying my next router and modem cut down on > what I have to pay the cable company. > > On 7/8/23, Cris Ali <filasti...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> No Sieghard, they do not stop charging for the modem; they consider >> it renting. Cable TV and Internet here in my area in Maryland is very >> expensive. I used to pay around 146 dollars a month, even though I >> have my own modem, which saved me 15 dollars a month. I canceled the >> cable TV and kept the internet. Now I am paying 90 a month with a 2 >> years contract. >> Thanks to my iPhone and iPad I can brouse tv programs and news using >> various apps without difficultes. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 8, 2023, at 1:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>> >>> But considering that you are paying them probably a fairly good >>> amount of money for your monthly servicve, I really have a problem >>> with them charging for a modem which costs a few hundred Dollars. >>> Chances are it is paid after 2 or 3 years and I doubt they will stop >>> charging you. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of Carolyn Arnold >>> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 7:15 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates >>> from Mark >>> >>> Our provider charges six dollars a month for modem - worth it to me, >>> since, if anything goes wrong, they could not get away with blaming >>> it on a modem from Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 9:52 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates >>> from Mark >>> >>> Hmm, I know here in Canada we pay some of the highest prices for >>> cell plans and also internet, but I certainly was never charged for >>> a modem. I am currently with a relatively small regional provider as >>> they have been installing fiber cables throughout our small >>> community for years whereas Telus, the big player, can't be bothered to do >>> so. >>> When I first signed up for my business as well as my home to get a >>> fiber connection the company sent out an installer who brought the >>> fiber cable to my house/store from the street and then hooked up >>> their modem and none of that cost me anything. Their modem does have >>> Wi-Fi capabilities, but only has 2 ports if you want to hook up >>> anything by cable so I prefer to have my Netgear Orbi router which >>> at least gives me 4 ports and more control over the Wi-Fi. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of Cris Ali >>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 4:17 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates >>> from Mark >>> >>> Hi Sieghard, >>> My provider charges 15 dollars a month for their modem. That adds up >>> to >>> 180 US dollars a year. I bought my NetGear Modem/router in 2015 for >>> 140 dollars, but saved myself at least 1200 dollars in the last >>> eight years. I will look into buying a modem and a router, but will >>> not let my provider steal my money. I am already paying.close to 100 >>> dollars for the service each month. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 7, 2023, at 6:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would absolutely separate modem and router, the modem you should >>>> get from your ISP, if it is also a Wi-Fi router make sure they turn >>>> that off and use your own. >>>> This way they are responsible for getting the internet connection >>>> into your house and to their modem, from there you connect your >>>> router and have control over your Wi-Fi, maybe a guest Wi-Fi if you >>>> set that up, you can make sure your router is updated and has a >>>> good and strong password. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of Cris Ali >>>> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 3:07 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates >>>> from Mark >>>> >>>> Thanks a million for this thoughtful explanation Sieghard. You >>>> really gave me great information and things to consider before I >>>> rush into ordering a new router. I thought of the Amazon Eero, but >>>> it does not have a modem builtin.i prefer a modem/router combo. >>>> Currently I have an eight years old netgear modem/router combo. It >>>> is time to upgrade. >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Jul 5, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Chris, you do not need a Wi-Fi 6 or 6E network for smart home >>>>> devices. >>>>> The main benefit of adding the 6 Ghz band is that a router can >>>>> support up to 200 devices so unless you think you will have that >>>>> many there is no huge benefit. Some of the most bandwidth hungry >>>>> devices are security cameras, video doorbells and so on and even >>>>> here you don't need Wi-Fi 6 and in fact most of them on the market >>>>> at this point don't even support the Wi-Fi 6 standard yet. >>>>> I own a retail store and we run 7 video cameras and a Nest Door >>>>> Bell which are all streaming simultaneously, there are 4 VoIP >>>>> telephones and we do at times have 3 phone calls going at the same >>>>> time, there are 2 smart thermostats, 3 Google Mini smart speakers >>>>> which are set up to play notifications from the Nest Video Door >>>>> Bell, there are 3 Sonos Amp receivers for music, a controller for >>>>> our window shutters and I know I forgot some stuff because when I >>>>> was logged into my router the other day I saw that just over 50 >>>>> devices were connected. All of this runs flawlessly and with 0 >>>>> issues on a Netgear Orbi mesh system with 1 satellite in a 6500 >>>>> square foot store and I have a 500 down and 250 up fiber internet >>>>> connection. >>>>> You have to remember that things like light switches, smart plugs, >>>>> smart locks and all that sort of stuff really only requires a very >>>>> minimal amount of data and there is a reason why quite a few smart >>>>> home devices still communicate on the 2.4 Ghz band; it is plenty >>>>> enough and it has a better range and is not effected as much by >>>>> walls and such. >>>>> Now, don't get me wrong, if I were to set up a new Wi-Fi network >>>>> or had to upgrade because of router issues, I would absolutely >>>>> recommend to go with a router which supports the Wi-Fi 6E standard >>>>> although Wi-Fi 7 is already onb the horizon and that is the reason >>>>> why I am in no hurry to upgrade, I'll most likely wait until >>>>> there is a good Wi-Fi 7 router on the market. >>>>> Another aspect which will be much more relevant to home automation >>>>> and smart devices is support for the new Matter standard and if >>>>> you are looking for a new router, don't buy anything which does >>>>> not have thread/Matter support. You can Google it, but in short it >>>>> allows devices connected to the Wi-Fi to communicate directly with >>>>> each other without going out over the Internet. This is a huge >>>>> step forward because it means many of your devices would even >>>>> still work if there were no internet connection because, for >>>>> example, your smart lock or smart light switch or smart light bulb >>>>> communicates directly with your iPhojne on the Wi-Fi network >>>>> whereas now the communication also requires a working internet connection. >>>>> I know for sure that the Amazon Eeros mesh system has thread >>>>> support and it's actually supposed to be one of the better mesh >>>>> systems for home automation, I believe maybe the Google mesh >>>>> system also has it, but not totally sure. I would also make sure >>>>> that any smart home device you buy whether it's a thermostat, >>>>> smart lock or light bulb has Matter support. >>>>> There are more and more devices coming on the market now and in >>>>> some cases companies can add this through a software update, but >>>>> check it and make sure it's supported and you'll be glad you did a >>>>> few years down the road. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On >>>>> Behalf Of Cris Ali >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 8:54 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related >>>>> Updates from Mark >>>>> >>>>> Mark, >>>>> Since you mentioned the Mesh Linksys router, i am curious if >>>>> Linksys has a modem/wireless router combo that supports Wi-Fi 6E. >>>>> I am trying to slowly make my home a smart home based on the Apple >>>>> Home Kit. This requires a very fast router for faster responses >>>>> from the smart home accessories. If you have any info, please share. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2023, at 11:28 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Richard, >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow! Thank you for the feedback on the TV Plus series. >>>>>> >>>>>> Interesting about the range extenders and Sonos. >>>>>> >>>>>> My personal opinion on routers is that people start to favor a >>>>>> brand or model and simply stick with it. I am certain that Net >>>>>> Gear and other brands are excellent. However, I started with >>>>>> Linksys and know the OS, by heart, and so see no need to switch >>>>>> as long as the brand continues to update. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark >>>>>> >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 4:17 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related >>>>>> Updates from Mark >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark, I can only comment on a couple things. >>>>>> Apple TV plus is excellent. I just watched the first three >>>>>> episodes of Hijack and am impressed. >>>>>> We just bought a new Wi-Fi router, an Archer 8a I think by >>>>>> TP-Link. It greatly increased our download speed. And I believe >>>>>> gives us better coverage. We cannot use range extenders because >>>>>> our Sonos sound system doesn't link extenders. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Richard, USA. >>>>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end >>>>>> of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we >>>>>> do” ~ John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2023, at 4:03 PM, M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a >>>>>> couple of questions I have can be answered by experts on either list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. >>>>>> So I finally decided to give Apple One a try. I have been >>>>>> resistant to it because I do not need all of the features >>>>>> included in the plan but, quite frankly, the billing is better >>>>>> when bundled. I have to admit that being able to read the lyrics >>>>>> of songs that are playing, in Apple Music, is very, very nice. >>>>>> Here is a question: Is it possible to place VoiceOver focus such >>>>>> that as the lyric being sung is automatically read out by VO? >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. >>>>>> With regard to Apple Fitness Plus: Any suggestions as to how >>>>>> best to get started using the features in conjunction with my Apple >>>>>> Watch? >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. >>>>>> Today, for the first time, I finally added a second card to Apple >>>>>> Pay. >>>>>> >>>>>> I must say that I am extremely relieved that selecting the >>>>>> non-default card, at time of purchase, is so easy. I had been >>>>>> reluctant to add a second card, for just that reason. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. >>>>>> Since I now have access to TV Plus, I guess I will give some of >>>>>> these, apparently, excellent new series a try. I am looking >>>>>> forward to watching Highjacked and Silo. >>>>>> >>>>>> 5. >>>>>> I was just thinking that all of my interaction with the world, in >>>>>> terms of technology, is done via Apple products; accept for my >>>>>> two remaining hardworking and beloved PCs; one that is still >>>>>> running Windows 7 The Windows 7 PC is not connected to the internet. >>>>>> >>>>>> 6. >>>>>> Now don't get me wrong, I love my Android devices but I cannot >>>>>> imagine using them as a primary means of navigating my life. >>>>>> >>>>>> 7. >>>>>> Although a day late and a dollar short, with regard to the thread >>>>>> that asked about good WIFI routers, I prefer Linksys routers and >>>>>> range extenders. In fact, I purchased 2 new range extenders for >>>>>> my home, just last week. I was delighted to discover that when >>>>>> you connect to these devices, for the first time, on an iOS >>>>>> device, the device's built-in web interface automatically >>>>>> launches, prompting you for the required info. Very, very, >>>>>> impressive. In fact, now that I think about it, these new >>>>>> devices can tell you when they are in the best location, relative >>>>>> to other Linksys devices, on the same network. How wonderful >>>>>> technology can be; and the best part? We have only scratched the >>>>>> surface on all that is to come. >>>>>> >>>>>> Finally, I hope you are all doing well and I do hope you will >>>>>> reply to this thread reporting your own personal Apple-related >>>>>> updates, also. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V >>>>>> iPhone list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, >>>>>> please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than >>>>>> posting on the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>>>> >>>>>> mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. 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