Our provider charges six dollars a month for modem - worth it to me, since, if anything goes wrong, they could not get away with blaming it on a modem from Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc.
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 9:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark Hmm, I know here in Canada we pay some of the highest prices for cell plans and also internet, but I certainly was never charged for a modem. I am currently with a relatively small regional provider as they have been installing fiber cables throughout our small community for years whereas Telus, the big player, can't be bothered to do so. When I first signed up for my business as well as my home to get a fiber connection the company sent out an installer who brought the fiber cable to my house/store from the street and then hooked up their modem and none of that cost me anything. Their modem does have Wi-Fi capabilities, but only has 2 ports if you want to hook up anything by cable so I prefer to have my Netgear Orbi router which at least gives me 4 ports and more control over the Wi-Fi. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 4:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark Hi Sieghard, My provider charges 15 dollars a month for their modem. That adds up to 180 US dollars a year. I bought my NetGear Modem/router in 2015 for 140 dollars, but saved myself at least 1200 dollars in the last eight years. I will look into buying a modem and a router, but will not let my provider steal my money. I am already paying.close to 100 dollars for the service each month. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 7, 2023, at 6:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > I would absolutely separate modem and router, the modem you should get from > your ISP, if it is also a Wi-Fi router make sure they turn that off and use > your own. > This way they are responsible for getting the internet connection into your > house and to their modem, from there you connect your router and have control > over your Wi-Fi, maybe a guest Wi-Fi if you set that up, you can make sure > your router is updated and has a good and strong password. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Cris Ali > Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 3:07 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates > from Mark > > Thanks a million for this thoughtful explanation Sieghard. You really gave me > great information and things to consider before I rush into ordering a new > router. I thought of the Amazon Eero, but it does not have a modem builtin.i > prefer a modem/router combo. Currently I have an eight years old netgear > modem/router combo. It is time to upgrade. > Cheers, > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 5, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> >> Chris, you do not need a Wi-Fi 6 or 6E network for smart home devices. The >> main benefit of adding the 6 Ghz band is that a router can support up to 200 >> devices so unless you think you will have that many there is no huge >> benefit. Some of the most bandwidth hungry devices are security cameras, >> video doorbells and so on and even here you don't need Wi-Fi 6 and in fact >> most of them on the market at this point don't even support the Wi-Fi 6 >> standard yet. >> I own a retail store and we run 7 video cameras and a Nest Door Bell which >> are all streaming simultaneously, there are 4 VoIP telephones and we do at >> times have 3 phone calls going at the same time, there are 2 smart >> thermostats, 3 Google Mini smart speakers which are set up to play >> notifications from the Nest Video Door Bell, there are 3 Sonos Amp receivers >> for music, a controller for our window shutters and I know I forgot some >> stuff because when I was logged into my router the other day I saw that just >> over 50 devices were connected. All of this runs flawlessly and with 0 >> issues on a Netgear Orbi mesh system with 1 satellite in a 6500 square foot >> store and I have a 500 down and 250 up fiber internet connection. >> You have to remember that things like light switches, smart plugs, smart >> locks and all that sort of stuff really only requires a very minimal amount >> of data and there is a reason why quite a few smart home devices still >> communicate on the 2.4 Ghz band; it is plenty enough and it has a better >> range and is not effected as much by walls and such. >> Now, don't get me wrong, if I were to set up a new Wi-Fi network or had to >> upgrade because of router issues, I would absolutely recommend to go with a >> router which supports the Wi-Fi 6E standard although Wi-Fi 7 is already onb >> the horizon and that is the reason why I am in no hurry to upgrade, I'll >> most likely wait until there is a good Wi-Fi 7 router on the market. >> Another aspect which will be much more relevant to home automation and smart >> devices is support for the new Matter standard and if you are looking for a >> new router, don't buy anything which does not have thread/Matter support. >> You can Google it, but in short it allows devices connected to the Wi-Fi to >> communicate directly with each other without going out over the Internet. >> This is a huge step forward because it means many of your devices would even >> still work if there were no internet connection because, for example, your >> smart lock or smart light switch or smart light bulb communicates directly >> with your iPhojne on the Wi-Fi network whereas now the communication also >> requires a working internet connection. >> I know for sure that the Amazon Eeros mesh system has thread support and >> it's actually supposed to be one of the better mesh systems for home >> automation, I believe maybe the Google mesh system also has it, but not >> totally sure. I would also make sure that any smart home device you buy >> whether it's a thermostat, smart lock or light bulb has Matter support. >> There are more and more devices coming on the market now and in some cases >> companies can add this through a software update, but check it and make sure >> it's supported and you'll be glad you did a few years down the road. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of Cris Ali >> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 8:54 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates >> from Mark >> >> Mark, >> Since you mentioned the Mesh Linksys router, i am curious if Linksys has a >> modem/wireless router combo that supports Wi-Fi 6E. I am trying to slowly >> make my home a smart home based on the Apple Home Kit. This requires a very >> fast router for faster responses from the smart home accessories. If you >> have any info, please share. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Jul 4, 2023, at 11:28 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Richard, >>> >>> Wow! Thank you for the feedback on the TV Plus series. >>> >>> Interesting about the range extenders and Sonos. >>> >>> My personal opinion on routers is that people start to favor a brand or >>> model and simply stick with it. I am certain that Net Gear and other >>> brands are excellent. However, I started with Linksys and know the OS, by >>> heart, and so see no need to switch as long as the brand continues to >>> update. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of Richard Turner >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 4:17 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates >>> from Mark >>> >>> Mark, I can only comment on a couple things. >>> Apple TV plus is excellent. I just watched the first three episodes of >>> Hijack and am impressed. >>> We just bought a new Wi-Fi router, an Archer 8a I think by TP-Link. It >>> greatly increased our download speed. And I believe gives us better >>> coverage. We cannot use range extenders because our Sonos sound system >>> doesn't link extenders. >>> >>> >>> Richard, USA. >>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of >>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ >>> John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 4, 2023, at 4:03 PM, M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple >>> of questions I have can be answered by experts on either list. >>> >>> Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US. >>> >>> 1. >>> So I finally decided to give Apple One a try. I have been resistant >>> to it because I do not need all of the features included in the plan >>> but, quite frankly, the billing is better when bundled. I have to >>> admit that being able to read the lyrics of songs that are playing, >>> in Apple Music, is very, very nice. Here is a question: Is it >>> possible to place VoiceOver focus such that as the lyric being sung is >>> automatically read out by VO? >>> >>> 2. >>> With regard to Apple Fitness Plus: Any suggestions as to how best >>> to get started using the features in conjunction with my Apple Watch? >>> >>> 3. >>> Today, for the first time, I finally added a second card to Apple Pay. >>> I must say that I am extremely relieved that selecting the >>> non-default card, at time of purchase, is so easy. I had been >>> reluctant to add a second card, for just that reason. >>> >>> 4. >>> Since I now have access to TV Plus, I guess I will give some of >>> these, apparently, excellent new series a try. I am looking forward >>> to watching Highjacked and Silo. >>> >>> 5. >>> I was just thinking that all of my interaction with the world, in >>> terms of technology, is done via Apple products; accept for my two >>> remaining hardworking and beloved PCs; one that is still running >>> Windows 7 The Windows 7 PC is not connected to the internet. >>> >>> 6. >>> Now don't get me wrong, I love my Android devices but I cannot >>> imagine using them as a primary means of navigating my life. >>> >>> 7. >>> Although a day late and a dollar short, with regard to the thread >>> that asked about good WIFI routers, I prefer Linksys routers and >>> range extenders. In fact, I purchased 2 new range extenders for my >>> home, just last week. I was delighted to discover that when you >>> connect to these devices, for the first time, on an iOS device, the >>> device's built-in web interface automatically launches, prompting >>> you for the required info. Very, very, impressive. In fact, now >>> that I think about it, these new devices can tell you when they are >>> in the best location, relative to other Linksys devices, on the same >>> network. How wonderful technology can be; and the best part? We have only >>> scratched the surface on all that is to come. >>> >>> Finally, I hope you are all doing well and I do hope you will reply >>> to this thread reporting your own personal Apple-related updates, also. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. 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