No Sieghard, they do not stop charging for the modem; they consider it renting. Cable TV and Internet here in my area in Maryland is very expensive. I used to pay around 146 dollars a month, even though I have my own modem, which saved me 15 dollars a month. I canceled the cable TV and kept the internet. Now I am paying 90 a month with a 2 years contract. Thanks to my iPhone and iPad I can brouse tv programs and news using various apps without difficultes.
Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2023, at 1:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > But considering that you are paying them probably a fairly good amount of > money for your monthly servicve, I really have a problem with them charging > for a modem which costs a few hundred Dollars. Chances are it is paid after 2 > or 3 years and I doubt they will stop charging you. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Carolyn Arnold > Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 7:15 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark > > Our provider charges six dollars a month for modem - worth it to me, since, > if anything goes wrong, they could not get away with blaming it on a modem > from Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 9:52 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark > > Hmm, I know here in Canada we pay some of the highest prices for cell plans > and also internet, but I certainly was never charged for a modem. I am > currently with a relatively small regional provider as they have been > installing fiber cables throughout our small community for years whereas > Telus, the big player, can't be bothered to do so. When I first signed up for > my business as well as my home to get a fiber connection the company sent out > an installer who brought the fiber cable to my house/store from the street > and then hooked up their modem and none of that cost me anything. Their modem > does have Wi-Fi capabilities, but only has 2 ports if you want to hook up > anything by cable so I prefer to have my Netgear Orbi router which at least > gives me 4 ports and more control over the Wi-Fi. > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cris > Ali > Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 4:17 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates from Mark > > Hi Sieghard, > My provider charges 15 dollars a month for their modem. That adds up to 180 > US dollars a year. I bought my NetGear Modem/router in 2015 for 140 dollars, > but saved myself at least 1200 dollars in the last eight years. I will look > into buying a modem and a router, but will not let my provider steal my > money. I am already paying.close to 100 dollars for the service each month. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 7, 2023, at 6:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> >> I would absolutely separate modem and router, the modem you should get from >> your ISP, if it is also a Wi-Fi router make sure they turn that off and use >> your own. >> This way they are responsible for getting the internet connection into your >> house and to their modem, from there you connect your router and have >> control over your Wi-Fi, maybe a guest Wi-Fi if you set that up, you can >> make sure your router is updated and has a good and strong password. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Cris Ali >> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 3:07 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates >> from Mark >> >> Thanks a million for this thoughtful explanation Sieghard. You really gave >> me great information and things to consider before I rush into ordering a >> new router. I thought of the Amazon Eero, but it does not have a modem >> builtin.i prefer a modem/router combo. Currently I have an eight years old >> netgear modem/router combo. It is time to upgrade. >> Cheers, >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Jul 5, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>> >>> Chris, you do not need a Wi-Fi 6 or 6E network for smart home devices. The >>> main benefit of adding the 6 Ghz band is that a router can support up to >>> 200 devices so unless you think you will have that many there is no huge >>> benefit. Some of the most bandwidth hungry devices are security cameras, >>> video doorbells and so on and even here you don't need Wi-Fi 6 and in fact >>> most of them on the market at this point don't even support the Wi-Fi 6 >>> standard yet. >>> I own a retail store and we run 7 video cameras and a Nest Door Bell which >>> are all streaming simultaneously, there are 4 VoIP telephones and we do at >>> times have 3 phone calls going at the same time, there are 2 smart >>> thermostats, 3 Google Mini smart speakers which are set up to play >>> notifications from the Nest Video Door Bell, there are 3 Sonos Amp >>> receivers for music, a controller for our window shutters and I know I >>> forgot some stuff because when I was logged into my router the other day I >>> saw that just over 50 devices were connected. All of this runs flawlessly >>> and with 0 issues on a Netgear Orbi mesh system with 1 satellite in a 6500 >>> square foot store and I have a 500 down and 250 up fiber internet >>> connection. >>> You have to remember that things like light switches, smart plugs, smart >>> locks and all that sort of stuff really only requires a very minimal amount >>> of data and there is a reason why quite a few smart home devices still >>> communicate on the 2.4 Ghz band; it is plenty enough and it has a better >>> range and is not effected as much by walls and such. >>> Now, don't get me wrong, if I were to set up a new Wi-Fi network or had to >>> upgrade because of router issues, I would absolutely recommend to go with a >>> router which supports the Wi-Fi 6E standard although Wi-Fi 7 is already onb >>> the horizon and that is the reason why I am in no hurry to upgrade, I'll >>> most likely wait until there is a good Wi-Fi 7 router on the market. >>> Another aspect which will be much more relevant to home automation and >>> smart devices is support for the new Matter standard and if you are looking >>> for a new router, don't buy anything which does not have thread/Matter >>> support. You can Google it, but in short it allows devices connected to the >>> Wi-Fi to communicate directly with each other without going out over the >>> Internet. This is a huge step forward because it means many of your devices >>> would even still work if there were no internet connection because, for >>> example, your smart lock or smart light switch or smart light bulb >>> communicates directly with your iPhojne on the Wi-Fi network whereas now >>> the communication also requires a working internet connection. >>> I know for sure that the Amazon Eeros mesh system has thread support and >>> it's actually supposed to be one of the better mesh systems for home >>> automation, I believe maybe the Google mesh system also has it, but not >>> totally sure. I would also make sure that any smart home device you buy >>> whether it's a thermostat, smart lock or light bulb has Matter support. >>> There are more and more devices coming on the market now and in some cases >>> companies can add this through a software update, but check it and make >>> sure it's supported and you'll be glad you did a few years down the road. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of Cris Ali >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 8:54 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates >>> from Mark >>> >>> Mark, >>> Since you mentioned the Mesh Linksys router, i am curious if Linksys has a >>> modem/wireless router combo that supports Wi-Fi 6E. I am trying to slowly >>> make my home a smart home based on the Apple Home Kit. This requires a very >>> fast router for faster responses from the smart home accessories. If you >>> have any info, please share. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Jul 4, 2023, at 11:28 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Richard, >>>> >>>> Wow! Thank you for the feedback on the TV Plus series. >>>> >>>> Interesting about the range extenders and Sonos. >>>> >>>> My personal opinion on routers is that people start to favor a brand or >>>> model and simply stick with it. I am certain that Net Gear and other >>>> brands are excellent. However, I started with Linksys and know the OS, by >>>> heart, and so see no need to switch as long as the brand continues to >>>> update. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of Richard Turner >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 4:17 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: A Big Hello and General Personal Apple-Related Updates >>>> from Mark >>>> >>>> Mark, I can only comment on a couple things. >>>> Apple TV plus is excellent. I just watched the first three episodes of >>>> Hijack and am impressed. >>>> We just bought a new Wi-Fi router, an Archer 8a I think by TP-Link. It >>>> greatly increased our download speed. And I believe gives us better >>>> coverage. We cannot use range extenders because our Sonos sound system >>>> doesn't link extenders. >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard, USA. >>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of >>>> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ >>>> John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jul 4, 2023, at 4:03 PM, M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>>> Hello Everyone, >>>> >>>> First, I am posting this to both lists because I know that a couple >>>> of questions I have can be answered by experts on either list. >>>> >>>> Second, Happy Independence Day for those of us in the US. >>>> >>>> 1. >>>> So I finally decided to give Apple One a try. I have been resistant >>>> to it because I do not need all of the features included in the plan >>>> but, quite frankly, the billing is better when bundled. I have to >>>> admit that being able to read the lyrics of songs that are playing, >>>> in Apple Music, is very, very nice. Here is a question: Is it >>>> possible to place VoiceOver focus such that as the lyric being sung is >>>> automatically read out by VO? >>>> >>>> 2. >>>> With regard to Apple Fitness Plus: Any suggestions as to how best >>>> to get started using the features in conjunction with my Apple Watch? >>>> >>>> 3. >>>> Today, for the first time, I finally added a second card to Apple Pay. >>>> I must say that I am extremely relieved that selecting the >>>> non-default card, at time of purchase, is so easy. I had been >>>> reluctant to add a second card, for just that reason. >>>> >>>> 4. >>>> Since I now have access to TV Plus, I guess I will give some of >>>> these, apparently, excellent new series a try. I am looking forward >>>> to watching Highjacked and Silo. >>>> >>>> 5. >>>> I was just thinking that all of my interaction with the world, in >>>> terms of technology, is done via Apple products; accept for my two >>>> remaining hardworking and beloved PCs; one that is still running >>>> Windows 7 The Windows 7 PC is not connected to the internet. >>>> >>>> 6. >>>> Now don't get me wrong, I love my Android devices but I cannot >>>> imagine using them as a primary means of navigating my life. >>>> >>>> 7. >>>> Although a day late and a dollar short, with regard to the thread >>>> that asked about good WIFI routers, I prefer Linksys routers and >>>> range extenders. In fact, I purchased 2 new range extenders for my >>>> home, just last week. I was delighted to discover that when you >>>> connect to these devices, for the first time, on an iOS device, the >>>> device's built-in web interface automatically launches, prompting >>>> you for the required info. Very, very, impressive. In fact, now >>>> that I think about it, these new devices can tell you when they are >>>> in the best location, relative to other Linksys devices, on the same >>>> network. How wonderful technology can be; and the best part? We have only >>>> scratched the surface on all that is to come. >>>> >>>> Finally, I hope you are all doing well and I do hope you will reply >>>> to this thread reporting your own personal Apple-related updates, also. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>> mailto:mk...@ucla.edu. 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