Yes, the OP may well need practice, but there are times on iOS7 when the gesture simply fails. This happened again today, for the third time total, and that is enough for me to report. So no, I have not reported it yet since I wanted to see if it was a fluke, but I am about to do so now that it has proven to not be a one-time oddity. On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:16 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have you reported this, plus your normal skill with gestures, to Apple > Accessibility? Unfortunately, until a cause can be determined, a fix is most > likely not going to occur. > > That said, in the original email, the person stated that one, two-finger > double tap starts music in the player usually in a couple attempts, and two, > the single-finger vertical flick up is not consistent - the volume goes up > and down. These two statements point to the conclusion that the author needs > more practice in the practice area. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 4 Dec 2013, at 7:28, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> David, I am great at these gestures, and get them right just about 100% of >> the time as well. I have used iOS successfully for three years, so trust me >> when I say: I know what I'm doing. In iOS7.0.4, I have found, on rare >> occasions, the two-finger double tap to simply not work. I have had this >> happen twice in the past few days: a call is coming in, so I tap two fingers >> twice, and nothing happens. I have been sort of monitoring this thread, so >> both times I methodically checked my finger position, placement on the >> screen, tap speed, and so on, and tried several more times. The gesture >> simply fails to work every so often, for no reason I can think of. Like you, >> I originally figured that those who were having trouble were just doing it >> wrong, but I must now say that there seems to be a bug with this gesture. >> Unfortunately, it is a rare one, so is hard to pin down and reproduce, and >> those are the hardest to fix. >> On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:18 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Please do not take this the wrong way. >>> >>> Double-tap the display with four fingers, or go to settings, general, >>> accessibility, VoiceOver, practice area, and perform much more practice >>> with your gestures. You really need to get to the point where you are >>> performing the gestures you believe you are performing 100% of the time. By >>> your message, it is clear that this is not currently the case. For >>> instance, when you perform the single-finger vertical flick to change the >>> volume, or any other flicker, the choice does not go up and down and up >>> again unless your gestures are not precise. >>> >>> The same is true with the two-finger double tap. You state you can get >>> music to start and stop playing with just a few tries. I get music to start >>> with one try and to stop with one try, always and every time I perform the >>> command. This is because I practiced the gestures extensively until I >>> started performing them 100% of the time. Absolutely nothing but lots of >>> practice will correct your difficulties with the gestures. >>> >>> When answering and hanging up phone calls, you are most likely holding your >>> two fingers too close together, so the touchscreen is only able to detect >>> one finger. Because we become anxious when the gesture does not perform >>> correctly the first time, the natural reaction is to tense up and cause our >>> fingers to come even closer together before we try again. When the gesture >>> continues not working, we do more of the same and get even more anxious. >>> >>> Remember, the gesture commands do work properly, all of the time, when we >>> perform the commands properly. Practice, practice, practice, and when you >>> think you finally have the commands down, practice some more because the >>> first few times this happens, the chances are you are bored and flustered >>> with the practicing. Remember, it initially took you a long time with lots >>> of frustration and many mistakes when you learned to type, and when you >>> learned to use the computer with the screen reader. This is no different. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 3 Dec 2013, at 15:05, "Lee Jones" <leejones...@sky.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear List, today I had difficulties hanging up calls. Voice over went >>>> dead. The end button is usually spoken very low for me but just audible >>>> but today there was nothing. I tried the two finger double tap about >>>> eight times with no joy. I thought that my gestures mayh have been sloppy, >>>> but the two finger double tap to pause audio in podcasts works on the >>>> first or second try. In extremus are there any other methods for hanging >>>> up calls? Can you set how much voice over’s volume decreases when a call >>>> is initiated? You can’t use the volume rotor if there is no voice >>>> feedback. What percentage volume is recommended before calling to make >>>> voice over audible with the decrease in volume assuming I can get it to go >>>> over 25 percent. >>>> For me the rotor bug is not just the 25 percent limit, but also that if >>>> you move it from five percent to ten percent and keep going the same way >>>> sometimes you go back to 5 percent instead of on to 15 percent. >>>> >>>> Many Thanks, Lee >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>> >>>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>> >>>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by >>>> emailingviphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by >>>> emailingviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> More VIPhone group options can be found by >>>> visitinghttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> >>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>> >>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by >>> emailingviphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> More VIPhone group options can be found by >>> visitinghttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >> Group. >> >> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >> >> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >> >> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by >> emailingviphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >> >> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing >> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> More VIPhone group options can be found by >> visitinghttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > > Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. > > Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > > Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by > emailingviphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. > > Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > More VIPhone group options can be found by > visitinghttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. 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