I have not yet experienced that particular bug. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone
> On 4 Dec 2013, at 8:28, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes, the OP may well need practice, but there are times on iOS7 when the > gesture simply fails. This happened again today, for the third time total, > and that is enough for me to report. So no, I have not reported it yet since > I wanted to see if it was a fluke, but I am about to do so now that it has > proven to not be a one-time oddity. >> On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:16 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Have you reported this, plus your normal skill with gestures, to Apple >> Accessibility? Unfortunately, until a cause can be determined, a fix is most >> likely not going to occur. >> >> That said, in the original email, the person stated that one, two-finger >> double tap starts music in the player usually in a couple attempts, and two, >> the single-finger vertical flick up is not consistent - the volume goes up >> and down. These two statements point to the conclusion that the author needs >> more practice in the practice area. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 4 Dec 2013, at 7:28, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> David, I am great at these gestures, and get them right just about 100% of >>> the time as well. I have used iOS successfully for three years, so trust me >>> when I say: I know what I'm doing. In iOS7.0.4, I have found, on rare >>> occasions, the two-finger double tap to simply not work. I have had this >>> happen twice in the past few days: a call is coming in, so I tap two >>> fingers twice, and nothing happens. I have been sort of monitoring this >>> thread, so both times I methodically checked my finger position, placement >>> on the screen, tap speed, and so on, and tried several more times. The >>> gesture simply fails to work every so often, for no reason I can think of. >>> Like you, I originally figured that those who were having trouble were just >>> doing it wrong, but I must now say that there seems to be a bug with this >>> gesture. Unfortunately, it is a rare one, so is hard to pin down and >>> reproduce, and those are the hardest to fix. >>>> On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:18 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Please do not take this the wrong way. >>>> >>>> Double-tap the display with four fingers, or go to settings, general, >>>> accessibility, VoiceOver, practice area, and perform much more practice >>>> with your gestures. You really need to get to the point where you are >>>> performing the gestures you believe you are performing 100% of the time. >>>> By your message, it is clear that this is not currently the case. For >>>> instance, when you perform the single-finger vertical flick to change the >>>> volume, or any other flicker, the choice does not go up and down and up >>>> again unless your gestures are not precise. >>>> >>>> The same is true with the two-finger double tap. You state you can get >>>> music to start and stop playing with just a few tries. I get music to >>>> start with one try and to stop with one try, always and every time I >>>> perform the command. This is because I practiced the gestures extensively >>>> until I started performing them 100% of the time. Absolutely nothing but >>>> lots of practice will correct your difficulties with the gestures. >>>> >>>> When answering and hanging up phone calls, you are most likely holding >>>> your two fingers too close together, so the touchscreen is only able to >>>> detect one finger. Because we become anxious when the gesture does not >>>> perform correctly the first time, the natural reaction is to tense up and >>>> cause our fingers to come even closer together before we try again. When >>>> the gesture continues not working, we do more of the same and get even >>>> more anxious. >>>> >>>> Remember, the gesture commands do work properly, all of the time, when we >>>> perform the commands properly. Practice, practice, practice, and when you >>>> think you finally have the commands down, practice some more because the >>>> first few times this happens, the chances are you are bored and flustered >>>> with the practicing. Remember, it initially took you a long time with lots >>>> of frustration and many mistakes when you learned to type, and when you >>>> learned to use the computer with the screen reader. This is no different. >>>> >>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 3 Dec 2013, at 15:05, "Lee Jones" <leejones...@sky.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear List, today I had difficulties hanging up calls. Voice over went >>>>> dead. The end button is usually spoken very low for me but just audible >>>>> but today there was nothing. I tried the two finger double tap about >>>>> eight times with no joy. I thought that my gestures mayh have been >>>>> sloppy, but the two finger double tap to pause audio in podcasts works on >>>>> the first or second try. In extremus are there any other methods for >>>>> hanging up calls? Can you set how much voice over’s volume decreases when >>>>> a call is initiated? You can’t use the volume rotor if there is no voice >>>>> feedback. What percentage volume is recommended before calling to make >>>>> voice over audible with the decrease in volume assuming I can get it to >>>>> go over 25 percent. >>>>> For me the rotor bug is not just the 25 percent limit, but also that if >>>>> you move it from five percent to ten percent and keep going the same way >>>>> sometimes you go back to 5 percent instead of on to 15 percent. >>>>> >>>>> Many Thanks, Lee >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>> Google Group. >>>>> >>>>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>> >>>>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by >>>>> emailingviphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by >>>>> emailingviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>>> More VIPhone group options can be found by >>>>> 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